What ending did you choose and why? (spoilers)

[Prince Ian]

All I wanted to do was keep panam and rogue out of it, for both me and silverhand's sake. I never believed that engrams were real souls, just software copies of a person's memories, so I had no real problem with silverhand being destroyed, and i certainly wasn't interested in uploading my brain into mikoshi. I wanted real hope to save myself and to spare the lives of rogue and panam, so I went in myself. I got mostly what I wanted, but there was a price to pay. I had to side with the devil to do it, and told that I have 6 months to live. What will happen next, who knows?

[Six of Saturn]

I could not be remembering right, but I am pretty sure both Arasaka and Alt turn you into an engram either way with soul killer prior to returning you to your body. May as well go the Mikoshi route and hope Goro and Hanako get you into a new body and have use for you.

[Fairy]

(SECRET ENDING SPOILERS)

I choose the secret ending, Don't Fear the Reaper. When V talks with Johnny and really gets to know him and why he did what he did he isn't a bad person. There were some side missions where I just looked at him and thought, "Wow, he understands."

The last Tape Worm mission when V speaks to Johnny at the hotel and he gives V his dog tags and asks if V would take a bullet for him my reply was, "Yes." It kind of opens your eyes to the fact that you're not fighting alone. Johnny genuinely wants to help you. He could be selfish and take over and fight V the whole time but he doesn't. He gets to know V on another level and the effed up thing that happened with the chip was because of the Corporations selfish desire to be immortal, the thing he sought to destroy and bring to light for the people. Sure he did a lot of it for Alt but I personally think Alt just fueled his flame even more and opened a door into what other horrible things Arasaka was doing.

I feel like Johnny was changing and being influenced by V just how he was influencing V. They gave each other a piece of themselves and learned from each other. So, I choose Don't Fear the Reaper because V was going to die no matter what. So, instead, V took that bullet early for Johnny and gave him that second chance at life. There was no point in killing the both of them if one could truly be saved. Johnny fought hard for V's life so in the end it was V's way of saying "thanks for fighting for me".

This is all my opinion of course and what I took away from the story and how this played out with my chosen dialogue options.

[5ean5ean]

Eh...they all stink.

[Nite69]

Panam ending or Johnny's secret ending I like both

[Prince Ian]

Originally posted by Fairy:

(SECRET ENDING SPOILERS)

I choose the secret ending, Don't Fear the Reaper. When V talks with Johnny and really gets to know him and why he did what he did he isn't a bad person. There were some side missions where I just looked at him and thought, "Wow, he understands."

The last Tape Worm mission when V speaks to Johnny at the hotel and he gives V his dog tags and asks if V would take a bullet for him my reply was, "Yes." It kind of opens your eyes to the fact that you're not fighting alone. Johnny genuinely wants to help you. He could be selfish and take over and fight V the whole time but he doesn't. He gets to know V on another level and the effed up thing that happened with the chip was because of the Corporations selfish desire to be immortal, the thing he sought to destroy and bring to light for the people. Sure he did a lot of it for Alt but I personally think Alt just fueled his flame even more and opened a door into what other horrible things Arasaka was doing.

I feel like Johnny was changing and being influenced by V just how he was influencing V. They gave each other a piece of themselves and learned from each other. So, I choose Don't Fear the Reaper because V was going to die no matter what. So, instead, V took that bullet early for Johnny and gave him that second chance at life. There was no point in killing the both of them if one could truly be saved. Johnny fought hard for V's life so in the end it was V's way of saying "thanks for fighting for me".

This is all my opinion of course and what I took away from the story and how this played out with my chosen dialogue options.

Really thought provoking. So you don't care if johnny silverhand is actually alive or not? I mean he's just a piece of software that think's he's silverhand because his memories are uploaded into it. You will take a bullet for a software program?

[Fairy]

Originally posted by Prince Ian:

Originally posted by Fairy:

(SECRET ENDING SPOILERS)

I choose the secret ending, Don't Fear the Reaper. When V talks with Johnny and really gets to know him and why he did what he did he isn't a bad person. There were some side missions where I just looked at him and thought, "Wow, he understands."

The last Tape Worm mission when V speaks to Johnny at the hotel and he gives V his dog tags and asks if V would take a bullet for him my reply was, "Yes." It kind of opens your eyes to the fact that you're not fighting alone. Johnny genuinely wants to help you. He could be selfish and take over and fight V the whole time but he doesn't. He gets to know V on another level and the effed up thing that happened with the chip was because of the Corporations selfish desire to be immortal, the thing he sought to destroy and bring to light for the people. Sure he did a lot of it for Alt but I personally think Alt just fueled his flame even more and opened a door into what other horrible things Arasaka was doing.

I feel like Johnny was changing and being influenced by V just how he was influencing V. They gave each other a piece of themselves and learned from each other. So, I choose Don't Fear the Reaper because V was going to die no matter what. So, instead, V took that bullet early for Johnny and gave him that second chance at life. There was no point in killing the both of them if one could truly be saved. Johnny fought hard for V's life so in the end it was V's way of saying "thanks for fighting for me".

This is all my opinion of course and what I took away from the story and how this played out with my chosen dialogue options.

Really thought provoking. So you don't care if johnny silverhand is actually alive or not? I mean he's just a piece of software that think's he's silverhand because his memories are uploaded into it. You will take a bullet for a software program?

There is no proof to say that johnny was nothing but a software program. No one actually knows. However, he has all his memories, he thinks, he feels, he's still human in my eyes. When V meets Alt in Mikoshi V is turned into a construct like Johnny so are you saying V is no longer human? To me, Johnny is just as alive as V.

[Toaster Maximus]

The Star cause you get to live free and leave the city of broken dreams behind, also since my first play through was on female V Judy came with Understood where Silverhand was coming from but didn't want to be bogged down in the bad end city.

[Toaster Maximus]

Originally posted by Fairy:

Originally posted by Prince Ian:

Really thought provoking. So you don't care if johnny silverhand is actually alive or not? I mean he's just a piece of software that think's he's silverhand because his memories are uploaded into it. You will take a bullet for a software program?

There is no proof to say that johnny was nothing but a software program. No one actually knows. However, he has all his memories, he thinks, he feels, he's still human in my eyes. When V meets Alt in Mikoshi V is turned into a construct like Johnny so are you saying V is no longer human? To me, Johnny is just as alive as V.

Also a key factor in human nature is the ability to change and grow which he does. so for all intent and purposes Silverhand is human the matter of souls is subjective

[Goldias]

I choose Arasaka route as it bring the least suffering to everyone, not counting secret ending which is pretty much suicide by (night city) standard.
Johnny died, but he died 50 years ago. Inside V is a copy of information about what johnny would do.
Mind uploading is always controversial even in the real world. Does a copy count as a person? should we give them human rights? Should he inherit his previous assets? What would relatives or family say? What if the original person miraculously alive, or worse, if someone makes mistake and create like 10 of myself, who will be the real one? etc, etc.
In my point of view, human is unique so my answer is that engram is not a person. No matter how he behave or even if he is your best choom. He's a program. Like Brendan.

Going with goro means no one else have to risk going toe to toe with the biggest corporation in the world, and he's good to his word since the beginning of the game. The only (real) person to die is Yorinobu, who can burn in hell for all I care.
But I won't sign to surrender my brain to Arasaka. Engram is not "me" so no point doing it to survive. I won't. Another V in the distant future is just a copy of "What I would do".

[Candle Jack]

The only end I am really satisfied with is flippin the reaper two big birds. It works out fine for me cause I don't do any romances. You already have your terminal diagnosis, seems gonk to pursue love interests when you know you're ultimately going to break hearts. Plus, the only romance that really mattered to me was helping Johnny and Alt reconnect. If that were me in real life I would be slaying as much trim as humanly possible. Besides after getting to know Johnny, he's a good dude, and I really believe in a lot of his philosophy. Felt good kicking saka in the knackers in spectacular fashion. I get to die a legend, maybe, depending on how that Crystal Casino gig went down, and Johnny gets to brave a new frontier. Like to think he found a way to shake up a whole new world on the other side of the wall. Maybe he'll return to meat space some day as some kind of digital savior to sever the corpo chains wrapped around the wold.

[Skram]

1.) Secret ending for street kid background w/ pam
or
2.) leave night city w/ judy for nomad background IMO
for 1.) I'd say that because I feel that lines up perfectly with the street kid background, trying to finally become someone but ending up becoming a legend at the expense of being alone
and 2.) because you begin as nomad saying you don't have a family anymore and by the end you'll have found a new family along with the friends you made in NC along with getting judy out of hell that is NC and showing her a new life and while you may not make it you at least died free.
if it was cynical like traditional cyberpunk literature then the ending would be the arasaka one where you don't know if you're even yourself anymore.

[Anatolius]

Left Jonny with the body - 6 months just don't cut it.

[Solhaven]

Many will argue that the Aldecados ending is the best one when in reality is one of a slow painful death with a bunch of people most of the world considers undesirable vagrants and screws them at every chance, the clinic Panam sugests is the same one Hellman tells you about and he clearly says: they can only ease your passing, for sure it feels like the best one at face value, everyone is happy and full of hope but in reality is just a smoke screen of fleeting joy.

Personally consider the best ending the secret one with Jonhy as a streetkid, assaulting the tower alone and giving him your body afterwards, a second chance for him to live and improve his life and those around him, that way V lives on as an AI with the posibility of taking human form again, becomes a night city legend and in a sense never fade away wich was V's goal to become somebody and also improves Jonhy as a person.

Took 50 years for the relic to be viable to transfer engrams to another body and V only has a year tops of life left and considering what Alt or the Arasaka techies tell you, there is no way currently to transfer your engram to another body due technological limitations because V engram is special due it merging 2 constructs. So people just wishfuly believe V has a chance if keeping the body or worse become a prisioner at Mikoshi.

Then theres the Queen/King of the Afterlife wich turns V into a self centered ahole with a clear disregard for everyone around, that ghosts/ignores all of their friends and people that helped him/her along the way wich also doesnt remove the impending death issue but only makes it worse due making V even more or a loner P rick for what life has left pretty much turning into a pre V Johny a personality regression.

So to sum things up having V and Jonhy alive and well for the upcoming rouge AI war that the Voodoboys were preparing for may be the cannon option.

[Skrubmeister]

Devil ending, at some point i felt like i had to get rid of Johnny knowing the chip would take me over, blowing my brains out felt ridiculous after all your character went through. It felt good to take down Smasher after parting with Johnny, showing him you proved him his last service as a friend, how weird that may sound being a backup. Because i started as a corpo i felt that it would be the best way to end too, but not completely. I went back to earth after recovering the surgery to finish my last moments with the few people i had left, Panam, Victor, Saul etc. I might have failed, but my V tried and did all he could. that does matter. The ending might not be as happy as other, but it's fitting. Night city is brutal.

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Prince Ian:

All I wanted to do was keep panam and rogue out of it, for both me and silverhand's sake. I never believed that engrams were real souls, just software copies of a person's memories, so I had no real problem with silverhand being destroyed, and i certainly wasn't interested in uploading my brain into mikoshi. I wanted real hope to save myself and to spare the lives of rogue and panam, so I went in myself. I got mostly what I wanted, but there was a price to pay. I had to side with the devil to do it, and told that I have 6 months to live. What will happen next, who knows?

If you don't believe engrams are the real thing, then V is dead before the game ends no matter the ending, and what's left is a software copy that thinks it's V.

This has always been the fatal flaw in thinking people can live forever by "uploading" into a computer. When you move a file, information, it's not like IRL like moving a physical object, you are making a copy and then deleting the original. From the copies perspective its a continuation, but for the original it's not. They cease to exist.