I hate the intro

[HummelAlt]

I love the gameplay of this game, like I am on my 4th playthrough right now (played on Stadia and GOG), but I hate having to go through this Dexter DeShaun Mission with Jackie. Its the worst quest I may have ever encountered in any game ever.

[Turkwise]

Then just download a save and skip it

[Cuddle_Rat]

Gotta sit through those Dex missions till you're a ripe old age smelling slightly of urine.

[HummelAlt]

Just survived it. It was a dreadful endeavor, but i will hopefully never live through it again.

[Turkwise]

Originally posted by Grubbs008:

Originally posted by Convicted Japist:

Then just download a save and skip it

Problem with that is, People have the game on a earlier patch which the game breaks in a lot of places. And most people that upload saves used mods that leave the save busted in some way or another.

There's only a couple saves on nexus for 1.6 that aren't busted in some way. And even those would require the Change your Look mod because the character looks awful.

Loading a save from release isnt going to break anything, most it will do is unlock the gigs early for each district the save entered before the patch changed it, which means that should only happen with Watson. Unless there's something else im not aware of

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Hayter:

I love the gameplay of this game, like I am on my 4th playthrough right now (played on Stadia and GOG), but I hate having to go through this Dexter DeShaun Mission with Jackie. Its the worst quest I may have ever encountered in any game ever.

So that's great.
You are dissatisfied, with basically the 'tutorial', and our time with the only choom that had our back like a a good 'family' member should. Well, I guess that is up to you. Act I is there for a reason, it is world-building, and to ground the PC, it isn't there to irritate you, it is there to give the PC a solid grounding on where they came from and why they are going through the sh*t they are.

Lastly, you never did expound on 'why' you hate it, you just gave a generalization, so nobody can really agree with you.

[5ean5ean]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Originally posted by Hayter:

I love the gameplay of this game, like I am on my 4th playthrough right now (played on Stadia and GOG), but I hate having to go through this Dexter DeShaun Mission with Jackie. Its the worst quest I may have ever encountered in any game ever.

So that's great.
You are dissatisfied, with basically the 'tutorial', and our time with the only choom that had our back like a a good 'family' member should. Well, I guess that is up to you. Act I is there for a reason, it is world-building, and to ground the PC, it isn't there to irritate you, it is there to give the PC a solid grounding on where they came from and why they are going through the sh*t they are.

Lastly, you never did expound on 'why' you hate it, you just gave a generalization, so nobody can really agree with you.

I think you missed the part where the OP said this is thier 4th playthrough. What world building is there at that point. After youve gone through it once Act 1 is tedious and kills replayability.

I agree with the OP 100%. Why do we need to relearn how to do a braindance? Why do we need to suffer through unskippable cutscenes that weve already seen before? Why is it so freaking long?

[Xelane]

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

So that's great.
You are dissatisfied, with basically the 'tutorial', and our time with the only choom that had our back like a a good 'family' member should. Well, I guess that is up to you. Act I is there for a reason, it is world-building, and to ground the PC, it isn't there to irritate you, it is there to give the PC a solid grounding on where they came from and why they are going through the sh*t they are.

Lastly, you never did expound on 'why' you hate it, you just gave a generalization, so nobody can really agree with you.

I think you missed the part where the OP said this is thier 4th playthrough. What world building is there at that point. After youve gone through it once Act 1 is tedious and kills replayability.

I agree with the OP 100%. Why do we need to relearn how to do a braindance? Why do we need to suffer through unskippable cutscenes that weve already seen before? Why is it so freaking long?

So how do you propose they fix it?

You can't just cut it because it is, as was already said, world-building and and setup. Doesn't matter if you already beat the game or know the story; if it wasn't there the first time around, you'd be completely lost as to why you start the game off with your character spazzing out in their apartment yelling at a "ghost" with no idea how they got there.

You can't easily add a skip option because you can free-roam and do missions before that point and what are they supposed to do? Guess what equipment and stat points you got? That or they just throw you forward in the story underpowered because you skipped like 5 hours of gameplay and have no gear or stat points.

[5ean5ean]

Originally posted by Xelane:

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

I think you missed the part where the OP said this is thier 4th playthrough. What world building is there at that point. After youve gone through it once Act 1 is tedious and kills replayability.

I agree with the OP 100%. Why do we need to relearn how to do a braindance? Why do we need to suffer through unskippable cutscenes that weve already seen before? Why is it so freaking long?

So how do you propose they fix it?

You can't just cut it because it is, as was already said, world-building and and setup. Doesn't matter if you already beat the game or know the story; if it wasn't there the first time around, you'd be completely lost as to why you start the game off with your character spazzing out in their apartment yelling at a "ghost" with no idea how they got there.

You can't easily add a skip option because you can free-roam and do missions before that point and what are they supposed to do? Guess what equipment and stat points you got? That or they just throw you forward in the story underpowered because you skipped like 5 hours of gameplay and have no gear or stat points.

Ive already made a post about this. When you beat the game you get the option to skip Act 1.

You dont gain anything from story missions and the side quests or gigs dont disappear in Act 2. In fact doing gigs and side queats before Act 2 is completely inefficient bc you want to open the map as as fast as possible to get access to better gear and most importantly Jackie's Bike (Spoiler Alert)

Act 1 on your 2nd playthrough only exists to waste your time. World building...give me a break.

[Xelane]

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Originally posted by Xelane:

So how do you propose they fix it?

You can't just cut it because it is, as was already said, world-building and and setup. Doesn't matter if you already beat the game or know the story; if it wasn't there the first time around, you'd be completely lost as to why you start the game off with your character spazzing out in their apartment yelling at a "ghost" with no idea how they got there.

You can't easily add a skip option because you can free-roam and do missions before that point and what are they supposed to do? Guess what equipment and stat points you got? That or they just throw you forward in the story underpowered because you skipped like 5 hours of gameplay and have no gear or stat points.

Ive already made a post about this. When you beat the game you get the option to skip Act 1.

You dont gain anything from story missions and the side quests or gigs dont disappear in Act 2. In fact doing gigs and side queats before Act 2 is completely inefficient bc you want to open the map as as fast as possible to get access to better gear and most importantly Jackie's Bike (Spoiler Alert)

Act 1 on your 2nd playthrough only exists to waste your time. World building...give me a break.

I can't think of any games that allow you to just skip hours of the story like that. I doubt most developers would want to put that option in, either.

[Tokenn]

After several playthroughs, it's a little tedious, for sure. But depending on how you develop your protagonist, you can approach it in different ways and make it interesting again.

[5ean5ean]

Originally posted by Xelane:

Originally posted by 5ean5ean:

Ive already made a post about this. When you beat the game you get the option to skip Act 1.

You dont gain anything from story missions and the side quests or gigs dont disappear in Act 2. In fact doing gigs and side queats before Act 2 is completely inefficient bc you want to open the map as as fast as possible to get access to better gear and most importantly Jackie's Bike (Spoiler Alert)

Act 1 on your 2nd playthrough only exists to waste your time. World building...give me a break.

I can't think of any games that allow you to just skip hours of the story like that. I doubt most developers would want to put that option in, either.

I cant think of many games outside of Metal Gear Solid series where you barely do any real gameplay for the first 4 hours. The biggest issue is you cant respec Attributes so outside of mods the only way to create a new build is to start over. Which just crushes your soul the more you do it.

[Oakshadow]

Yea I was just thinking this today. Game's early game is probably the worst I've had to go through.
You shouldn't have to sit through 1.5 hrs worth of tutorial just to experiment with a new build. It's really disrespectful to player's time. And honestly is the biggest turn off this game actually has going. Because once the game actually opens up and you get to play it, its great.

[PeKar(NoSound)]

When I start to play this game for the first time, reading all these negative reviews, I said, ok, clear head, let's give it a chance. After an hour of playing that awful tutorial, I was like, ok, 30 more minutes and if nothing changes, I'll just delete it and refund. Good for me, its ended and I really start to enjoy the game)
So, yes, option like skip all Dex dialogue or hotel crawling with that stupid bot be very nice)

[OGPG]

I would love to be able to skip Chapter 1. Worst part of the game.

[Bishop-Six]

I think for replayability an "advanced start" would be nice where you wake up after the Heist with the Relic in your head, so that night where Johnny appear the first time.

Given the character Level 4 or 5 and some credits. Et voila, a nice start for the 2nd (and more) playthrough.