Handgun Scopes, WTF is wrong with them?

[Toran Blackwater]

I like playing it sneaky smooth till the ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan, using silenced pistols mostly.

The weird thing: as soon as I use any of the pistol scopes, accuracy is way off compared to iron sights even missing targets as close as 10m at times.

Comparing decals shows dense groups with iron sights, even at bigger distances, while using a scope has groups all over the place...

[Grobut]

Settings / Gameplay / Weapon Sway

Make sure it's set to "On Weapon", and not "On Camera".


It fixes!

[Toran Blackwater]

Thanks for the answer. Weapon Sway is on weapon already, that doesn't do it. The accuracy is just way off with scopes (can headshot targets at 50+m with iron sights).

[Soulreaver]

Maybe the iron sights are not adjusted.
In real life you would also need to adjust it. It's just uncommon for games to have this.

So might be that you have to aim a bit higher to actually hit.

Just a guess though.

[Bogmore]

I hit the head every time I aim for it when using a scope, weapon sway is something I always turn off. Don't forget to crouch when doing headshots.

[popsicle]

You really need to get the holographics attachment for the handguns. I find that to be most useful.

[Nite69]

Thier is many different scopes you can get, some are better then others, try a different one

[max_da_killah]

Have you turned on the center dot in the settings?
When I had it on I constantly mistook it for the aiming dot of the handgun scopes. Since I turned it off I don't have problems nailing those headshots anymore.

[Toran Blackwater]

Originally posted by max_da_killah:

Have you turned on the center dot in the settings?
When I had it on I constantly mistook it for the aiming dot of the handgun scopes. Since I turned it off I don't have problems nailing those headshots anymore.

I turned off the crosshair too, even removed my smartlink implant. It's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and I have no idea why.

In Kabuki is a weapon shop with a shooting range. Without scope, I can hit the small diamonds at the corners without spread outside (looks like one big hole). With an attached scope however (no matter which and no matter the quality), the spread is in the outer lines of the big diamond in the center and a few even outside of it. That target is maybe 15-20m away.

Would have loved to use that Kanetsugu scope.

Originally posted by Bogmore:

I hit the head every time I aim for it when using a scope, weapon sway is something I always turn off. Don't forget to crouch when doing headshots.

Without scope, I headshot targets in 50-100m range. With scope I often miss still standing targets at 10-15m.

Originally posted by Nite69:

Thier is many different scopes you can get, some are better then others, try a different one

Tried them all.

Originally posted by Bogmore:

I hit the head every time I aim for it when using a scope, weapon sway is something I always turn off. Don't forget to crouch when doing headshots.

weapon sway is minimal

Originally posted by Soulreaver:

Maybe the iron sights are not adjusted.
In real life you would also need to adjust it. It's just uncommon for games to have this.

So might be that you have to aim a bit higher to actually hit.

Just a guess though.

RL adjustments don't mess up the spread (unless the sight is totally loose and changes with every shot).

Out of ideas, thanks for all the answers. Back to iron sights.

[Porkhammer]

I also noticed shots not hitting their mark since the patch, probably a new bug.

[Atom]

the sights for some guns have been off since launch. I use an Overlay crosshair called CrossOver, ya can get it on github. works great just set ya game to windowed borderless. Once you have CrossOver set up right you'll see that many of the guns sights aren't centered on the screen right, for ex. the Comrade's Hammer and it's base gun both have a holo sight on them that you can't replace. But they're set up to use the small ironsights under the holosight which means if you're aiming using that holosight you're hitting much lower than where you're aiming. Other guns sights and scopes are off as well but most aren't as far off as C.H. also the new ingame center dot is actually centered so ya can use that as well. I have it on too my CrossOver sight sits right on top of it. Using the center dot or CrossOver as my sight instead of the screwy scopes and sights crosshairs I'm always on target.

[Toran Blackwater]

Originally posted by Atom:

the sights for some guns have been off since launch. I use an Overlay crosshair called CrossOver, ya can get it on github. works great just set ya game to windowed borderless. Once you have CrossOver set up right you'll see that many of the guns sights aren't centered on the screen right, for ex. the Comrade's Hammer and it's base gun both have a holo sight on them that you can't replace. But they're set up to use the small ironsights under the holosight which means if you're aiming using that holosight you're hitting much lower than where you're aiming. Other guns sights and scopes are off as well but most aren't as far off as C.H. also the new ingame center dot is actually centered so ya can use that as well. I have it on too my CrossOver sight sits right on top of it. Using the center dot or CrossOver as my sight instead of the screwy scopes and sights crosshairs I'm always on target.

Again, this is not about a mark being off center. If that would be the case, I'd have a tight group with scopes too, just at a different spot.

[[NZ] Vivi Strike]

i think its a bug, i notice this a lot when doing cover aiming.
If i cover aim and then move, the bullet doesn't shoot where i aim even if i'm still again. But if i cover aim but not move then i don't get this problem.