What to pair with maxed body build?

[Leon]

so far i was interested in gorilla arms as i could do 10-15+ lvls areas aboe my lvl punching enemies, sure sometimes i have to 1 v 1 or else i get 1-2 shot and die, but this seems to be much better than dealing 50 dmg each with my highest damage shotgun atm.

so was wondering if there is any nice build focusing on either gorilla arms, or shotgun, but mostly gorilla arms, and if i can pair them with other skills like cool, or reflexes.

atm i maxed body first, the rest are like 3 int, 6 cool, andi think 4 reflex and probably 3 or 6 on the last one, forgot its name.

[War Maiden]

Alright. So what we really need to know is what you 'must have' as part of your V spec, and what you 'do not care about'.

For instance, my V is a big brain.
She has 20 TA, and is going to 20 Int. She will also go high on reflexes and Body.
This is because she uses Legendary Ashura to snipe (Reflexes/Assault), Divided We Stand at medium range (Body/Annihilation), and Sasquatch's Hammer for close in fights (Body/Street Brawler). It should be noted that I could also go with the Monowire, and use (Reflexes/Blades) so the choice is up to you. But Monowire is a gamble, I will explain why.

Although one caveat. Monowire is indiscriminate. Meaning if you use it when civilians are around the wire might catch them, as it has a decent reach, so be cognizant of this if you use it around those you are trying to save. I would suggest you don't. Keep your tactics to the situation at hand.

[Fake]

There isn't a "wrong" build. Just build your V the way you want.

Even the most "gimped" build will have no problems on Very Hard.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Leon:

so far i was interested in gorilla arms as i could do 10-15+ lvls areas aboe my lvl punching enemies, sure sometimes i have to 1 v 1 or else i get 1-2 shot and die, but this seems to be much better than dealing 50 dmg each with my highest damage shotgun atm.

so was wondering if there is any nice build focusing on either gorilla arms, or shotgun, but mostly gorilla arms, and if i can pair them with other skills like cool, or reflexes.

atm i maxed body first, the rest are like 3 int, 6 cool, andi think 4 reflex and probably 3 or 6 on the last one, forgot its name.

Always nice to see nobody commented on my proposals, but it is what it is.

I will tell you plain, OP.
Gorilla Arms are basically for the 'Beat the Brat' fights.
They are not something anyone expects you to do outside of that quest line.
Why? Because Melee range deeper in the game is suicide. Why?

A few reasons. Armor was 'significantly' nerfed in patch 1.5.
Hence, you cannot bully NCPD/Maxtac Enforcers anymore even at max stars and still survive, it just cannot happen regardless of level.

If I were you, I would get the Legendary Monowire, the Legendary Arm Missile, and even the Legendary Optical Camo. I would 'stress' getting the camo first, as it will aid you vastly in increased XP accrument when completing gigs and things in complete stealth, assuming you can do it to the fixers satisfaction.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Always nice to see nobody commented on my proposals, but it is what it is.

I will tell you plain, OP.
Gorilla Arms are basically for the 'Beat the Brat' fights.
They are not something anyone expects you to do outside of that quest line.
Why? Because Melee range deeper in the game is suicide. Why?

A few reasons. Armor was 'significantly' nerfed in patch 1.5.
Hence, you cannot bully NCPD/Maxtac Enforcers anymore even at max stars and still survive, it just cannot happen regardless of level.

If I were you, I would get the Legendary Monowire, the Legendary Arm Missile, and even the Legendary Optical Camo. I would 'stress' getting the camo first, as it will aid you vastly in increased XP accrument when completing gigs and things in complete stealth, assuming you can do it to the fixers satisfaction.

If you go 20 body, you get so much HP and HP regen that you can go naked.

That might have been prior 1.5ver2 HF#2 but that is not the case anymore.

[shoopy]

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Originally posted by Leon:

so far i was interested in gorilla arms as i could do 10-15+ lvls areas aboe my lvl punching enemies, sure sometimes i have to 1 v 1 or else i get 1-2 shot and die, but this seems to be much better than dealing 50 dmg each with my highest damage shotgun atm.

so was wondering if there is any nice build focusing on either gorilla arms, or shotgun, but mostly gorilla arms, and if i can pair them with other skills like cool, or reflexes.

atm i maxed body first, the rest are like 3 int, 6 cool, andi think 4 reflex and probably 3 or 6 on the last one, forgot its name.

Always nice to see nobody commented on my proposals, but it is what it is.

I will tell you plain, OP.
Gorilla Arms are basically for the 'Beat the Brat' fights.
They are not something anyone expects you to do outside of that quest line.
Why? Because Melee range deeper in the game is suicide. Why?

A few reasons. Armor was 'significantly' nerfed in patch 1.5.
Hence, you cannot bully NCPD/Maxtac Enforcers anymore even at max stars and still survive, it just cannot happen regardless of level.

If I were you, I would get the Legendary Monowire, the Legendary Arm Missile, and even the Legendary Optical Camo. I would 'stress' getting the camo first, as it will aid you vastly in increased XP accrument when completing gigs and things in complete stealth, assuming you can do it to the fixers satisfaction.

Do you ever fight Maxtac without having a wanted level?

[Izzy Wit Da Uzi]

I'd recommend reflexes because it increases your movement speed and you can get the 'heal on kill' cyberware. Reflexes also increase mitigation chance. Faster movement speed and mitigation pairs well with gorilla fist/shotguns or blades too since you're going to be close range during combat most of the time.

After that you can go either cool or tech. Cool would probably be better for the cold blood perks that can further increase movement speed, attack speed, armor, and damage.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by ardiel:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Always nice to see nobody commented on my proposals, but it is what it is.

I will tell you plain, OP.
Gorilla Arms are basically for the 'Beat the Brat' fights.
They are not something anyone expects you to do outside of that quest line.
Why? Because Melee range deeper in the game is suicide. Why?

A few reasons. Armor was 'significantly' nerfed in patch 1.5.
Hence, you cannot bully NCPD/Maxtac Enforcers anymore even at max stars and still survive, it just cannot happen regardless of level.

If I were you, I would get the Legendary Monowire, the Legendary Arm Missile, and even the Legendary Optical Camo. I would 'stress' getting the camo first, as it will aid you vastly in increased XP accrument when completing gigs and things in complete stealth, assuming you can do it to the fixers satisfaction.

Originally posted by ardiel:

Do you ever fight Maxtac without having a wanted level?

Why would I fight Maxtac? There is no advantage to gaining their ire.
What possible reward would there be for confronting them in a 'melee' situation?

I'm a 20 Int and 20 TA V.
Stealth and Shinobi/Kunoichi tactics are key here.

No, I use hacks, smart tech, and camo - and other advantages to clear the field.
WHY would anyone engage these types in melee? Stupid is as stupid does.

Take them all out from afar, neutralize their resistances, neutralize their ability to sync and collaborate. Shut them down at every conceivable level, and you gain technological superiority.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by ardiel:

Do you ever fight Maxtac without having a wanted level?

There really isn't ever a reason too unless you just want to see if you can. For that, head to the border checkpoint. You can't go past it very far before you hit a kil volume, but you can try to fight everybody there if you want.

Even if you accidentally run over a dozen pedestrians while accidentally driving on the sidewalk at maximum speed, followed by not noticing another crowd of civilians where you just toss a grenade for no reason at all, you can just evade the police. Hell, I think your wanted stars still instantly vanish if you run into a shop and talk to the vendor. It's not like the police drop their armor, AFAICT, and even if they did, there's no disguise mechanic to encourage using a complete uniform set. And the weapons they drop aren't anything special.

[Leon]

I have read all the replies, and thanks all for the suggestions and such

Originally posted by War Maiden:

Always nice to see nobody commented on my proposals, but it is what it is.

im confused with that line, as i didn't reply yet, it feels like i ignored u, which i didn't or you misquoted me? idk.


so more info for those who want to know my actual goal or build that im looking for:

- i am mainly using gorilla arms now, some say it is suicide or not that good, but i know my downsides for now, i can only go 1v1 with enemies skulled at least, they will mostly be knocked down and will eventually die ( given i have low tier stuff, and still not advancing into main mission since heist.

- some also suggested hack and ninjatsu, sure i have done my fair share ( and still ) in some gigs now in stealth, that it made the game either no combat envolved, or just plain easy, seen couple of old version 1.3 and behind on hack, some were new, and tbh, if i wanted to hack the entire game, i would just go play watch dogs lol


- my vision of V: V is piss*d off, V is angry of what is going all over and after what happened, and wants to stop the bad people, and the silverhand. V wants to punch the crap out of people.

- i want to utilize more melee, i have seen berserk, which seems to be adding more to melee build, but not sure how cool ( cold blood ) can be activated, as i still have that 0 and still till now.

also again, i appreciate everyone's comment and reply and read them all.

[shoopy]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

Originally posted by ardiel:

Do you ever fight Maxtac without having a wanted level?

There really isn't ever a reason too unless you just want to see if you can. For that, head to the border checkpoint. You can't go past it very far before you hit a kil volume, but you can try to fight everybody there if you want.

Even if you accidentally run over a dozen pedestrians while accidentally driving on the sidewalk at maximum speed, followed by not noticing another crowd of civilians where you just toss a grenade for no reason at all, you can just evade the police. Hell, I think your wanted stars still instantly vanish if you run into a shop and talk to the vendor. It's not like the police drop their armor, AFAICT, and even if they did, there's no disguise mechanic to encourage using a complete uniform set. And the weapons they drop aren't anything special.

So basically they aren't very relevant to main game balance. Which was my point in asking the question. They don't make a good example of surviving with the 1.5 changes.

[Weaver]

The Cold Blood tree is fantastic for a close in combat build as it gives you major buffs for those intense in your face fights and rewards you for chaining kills.
Reflexes will help somewhat as it does make you move a bit quicker and it ups your damage evasion/mitigation.
You can pick up some Ninjatsu as well to help you get into a close position to start fights.

I'm doing something similar with a "Batman" play through to make life more interesting.
No anything in intelligence, only use ping and distraction quickhack.
No guns, lethal weapons, or lethal grenades against people. I use Target Anaylsis as well to lessen the chance of killing someone and also so I can use throwing knives as non-lehtal batarangs. So no intentional killing.
I intend to get gorilla arms as well.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by War Maiden:

I'm a 20 Int and 20 TA V.
Stealth and Shinobi/Kunoichi tactics are key here.

No, I use hacks, smart tech, and camo - and other advantages to clear the field.
WHY would anyone engage these types in melee? Stupid is as stupid does.

Take them all out from afar, neutralize their resistances, neutralize their ability to sync and collaborate. Shut them down at every conceivable level, and you gain technological superiority.

Cool RP story.

Thanks!

[OH! MY CAR]

Originally posted by Leon:

so far i was interested in gorilla arms as i could do 10-15+ lvls areas aboe my lvl punching enemies, sure sometimes i have to 1 v 1 or else i get 1-2 shot and die, but this seems to be much better than dealing 50 dmg each with my highest damage shotgun atm.

so was wondering if there is any nice build focusing on either gorilla arms, or shotgun, but mostly gorilla arms, and if i can pair them with other skills like cool, or reflexes.

atm i maxed body first, the rest are like 3 int, 6 cool, andi think 4 reflex and probably 3 or 6 on the last one, forgot its name.

I used to use a 20 intel, 20 body, 20 cool and 8 reflex build, using monowire with legendary short circuit.

After the balance changes I thought I might switch my build up and get more reflex...

NOPE!

20 body is still great with 20 intel and 20 cool, plus 8 reflex.

With legendary short circuit, you trigger the effect on every crit... even on police that you normally can not hack, and that will probably be the bulk of your damage.

High crit plus whatever weapon you choose = win.

Monowire is still one of my main weapons... does not even matter that it is in reflex now... just more points to spend on crit.

The build is also really fun to throw knives with.

You can still wreck the police and maxtac with a build like this, on very hard mode, but you obviously take more damage than you did before, heh.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by OH! MY CAR:

Originally posted by Leon:

so far i was interested in gorilla arms as i could do 10-15+ lvls areas aboe my lvl punching enemies, sure sometimes i have to 1 v 1 or else i get 1-2 shot and die, but this seems to be much better than dealing 50 dmg each with my highest damage shotgun atm.

so was wondering if there is any nice build focusing on either gorilla arms, or shotgun, but mostly gorilla arms, and if i can pair them with other skills like cool, or reflexes.

atm i maxed body first, the rest are like 3 int, 6 cool, andi think 4 reflex and probably 3 or 6 on the last one, forgot its name.

I used to use a 20 intel, 20 body, 20 cool and 8 reflex build, using monowire with legendary short circuit.

After the balance changes I thought I might switch my build up and get more reflex...

NOPE!

20 body is still great with 20 intel and 20 cool, plus 8 reflex.

With legendary short circuit, you trigger the effect on every crit... even on police that you normally can not hack, and that will probably be the bulk of your damage.

High crit plus whatever weapon you choose = win.

Monowire is still one of my main weapons... does not even matter that it is in reflex now... just more points to spend on crit.

The build is also really fun to throw knives with.

You can still wreck the police and maxtac with a build like this, on very hard mode, but you obviously take more damage than you did before, heh.

Interesting.
Thank you for your input!

I like going the 'big brain' version, and 18 TA seems like it is still a necessity, but the rest seems to be up to individual preference, especially when it comes to weapons.

[skOsH♥]

I'd like to see a max body with max reflexes and cool