Cyberpunk 1 year later

[hydra]

It's been a year. Do you think the game will ever live up to the promises before release?

[Tanoomba]

I don't think we can even establish what said "promises" were, so no.

[GrayHound]

Not in the base game, no. The DLCs could at least have good story lines with multiple paths, which could half redeem it.

[Lazarus {FATE}]

Originally posted by hydra:

It's been a year. Do you think the game will ever live up to the promises before release?

If you go by their long concept, watermarked video, which while not actually a promise is a vision of what their initial goal was to be. Then the answer is probably no considering the quality and content of their patches thus far.

[Zebedee]

It won't ever be the game they hoped it would be. They've run into hard limitations of how the game is designed on the current engine for even the latest tech. So far the patching has been a long struggle to find ways round those limitations. I hope they will consider reworks of systems as they find ways to make them work with the current engine, there's plenty of little hints of what they'd intended for things like car chases and so on but which have never been taken further or polished, but I suspect it won't ever reach what some would want.

So no. But I do think it's worth not just concentrating on what hasn't been achieved and to encourage them to also lean into the things which do work. More choices and consequences to quests, more memorable side quests where writers are given room to play with cyberpunk themes and motifs, and I'd be really happy if that sort of thing was in the pipeline to be added in too.

[CoffeeBro]

No.
CDPR needs to drop this turd-can and move onto money makers like Witcher 4.
CDPR makes NO promises on when the next gen patch will come out. They kicked the ball to 1qtr 2022 from 4th qtr 2021.
But if you read the investor minutes, this is in no way promised. It's a guess. Also, no where does CDPR say what will be in the patch. They don't even touch on a CP2077 future. I think they did hint that DLC may come out. But seriously, CDPR is as excited about the future of CP2077 as they are about cleaning the toilets.

So my guess is when Witcher 4 starts it's marketing campaign, CDPR will release a patch of sorts to hush the negitive comments and make the CDPR fanboy-bots go wild.

It's now all about Witcher 4 and reselling a Witcher 3 remake.

[Affronter]

Originally posted by hydra:

It's been a year. ...

No it hasn't been a year yet.

[Stumpy]

No.

The lesson learned here is greed should not outweigh common sense. Nobody can ever convince me that CDPR didn't as some point realise (and well before this game was originally planned to drop) that this game was pushing well beyond the limitations of the last gen consoles. They knew and it should of been scrapped for them. CP is not the first game in history to start its development journey on the last gen and migrate over to the newer one.

[Mithrandir]

Originally posted by Affronter:

Originally posted by hydra:

It's been a year. ...

No it hasn't been a year yet.

Exactly.

I've no problem with those who think it's taking too long, but wait for december before using the 1 year point for some sensational title.

[CoffeeBro]

Originally posted by Mithrandir:

Originally posted by Affronter:

No it hasn't been a year yet.

Exactly.

I've no problem with those who think it's taking too long, but wait for december before using the 1 year point for some sensational title.

You are correct about the game not being 1 year old yet. That is important.

But CDPR themselves in their minutes do say that nothing changes till 1st qtr 2022 earliest. No promises.

So we don't need a crystal ball to know that a year+ will pass before we see anything. BTW, those same minutes barely touch on DLC and patches and when the subject is touched the answer is no promises to anything, done when done.

[JJ, Professional Fool]

This is just a weak GTA clone with RPG elements. Even the looting is pointless as Z key turns everything into craft XP. Go to spot, do the thing. Side jobs!

Except everything feels slow, combat is fast and ends before it starts most times. So much fetch and go here, do one thing, never return again. I think this was never that good, but hype pretended it was.

[CoffeeBro]

Originally posted by JJ, Professional Fool:

This is just a weak GTA clone with RPG elements. Even the looting is pointless as Z key turns everything into craft XP. Go to spot, do the thing. Side jobs!

Except everything feels slow, combat is fast and ends before it starts most times. So much fetch and go here, do one thing, never return again. I think this was never that good, but hype pretended it was.

I do see why you think that. For me, I do see great to good things in the game. The city is unique, not a copy of a real city. Plus I think it looks very amazing.
There's much to like imo.

But this game was seriously chopped at the knees in visual / world content and quest content.

Sad really because this game should be the new Skyrim standard for decades to come.

[JJ, Professional Fool]

Originally posted by ronjsim1:

Originally posted by JJ, Professional Fool:

This is just a weak GTA clone with RPG elements. Even the looting is pointless as Z key turns everything into craft XP. Go to spot, do the thing. Side jobs!

Except everything feels slow, combat is fast and ends before it starts most times. So much fetch and go here, do one thing, never return again. I think this was never that good, but hype pretended it was.

I do see why you think that. For me, I do see great to good things in the game. The city is unique, not a copy of a real city. Plus I think it looks very amazing.
There's much to like imo.

But this game was seriously chopped at the knees in visual / world content and quest content.

Sad really because this game should be the new Skyrim standard for decades to come.

My rose tinted shades broke years ago. Ive never seen Night City before this game was released, but being an 80's kid, seeing Sci-fi flicks growing up and reading books gave me night city before it began. It uses base tropes and re-used idea's. This game is not unique in design or concept. Ive "Seen this before" kind of feeling.

I have to ignore the skin and check 2 components, stability and content. Reeves cant save this one sadly. Replace water with trash, because humans so bad. Use LED tints and highlight wasteful technology. AKA all those in-ground cross walks and loud promotional material.

Idk, again, just feels like a weak GTA clone with a gimmick. Gimmick is neo cyberpunk. All this has going for it is a forced first person perspective with leveling elements. GTA also introduced first person gameplay with 5's updates. So again, not even the first to do it.

[CoffeeBro]

Originally posted by JJ, Professional Fool:

Originally posted by ronjsim1:

I do see why you think that. For me, I do see great to good things in the game. The city is unique, not a copy of a real city. Plus I think it looks very amazing.
There's much to like imo.

But this game was seriously chopped at the knees in visual / world content and quest content.

Sad really because this game should be the new Skyrim standard for decades to come.

My rose tinted shades broke years ago. Ive never seen Night City before this game was released, but being an 80's kid, seeing Sci-fi flicks growing up and reading books gave me night city before it began. It uses base tropes and re-used idea's. This game is not unique in design or concept. Ive "Seen this before" kind of feeling.

I have to ignore the skin and check 2 components, stability and content. Reeves cant save this one sadly. Replace water with trash, because humans so bad. Use LED tints and highlight wasteful technology. AKA all those in-ground cross walks and loud promotional material.

Idk, again, just feels like a weak GTA clone with a gimmick. Gimmick is neo cyberpunk. All this has going for it is a forced first person perspective with leveling elements. GTA also introduced first person gameplay with 5's updates. So again, not even the first to do it.

Careful lol. The CDPR fanboy-bot will jump on you like a rat on cheese. Just say'n.

Fun gaming friend.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by ronjsim1:

But CDPR themselves in their minutes do say that nothing changes till 1st qtr 2022 earliest.

No, they didn't. They said the next-gen update would be pushed to that time.

Originally posted by ronjsim1:

So we don't need a crystal ball to know that a year+ will pass before we see anything.

Besides everything they've already done, you mean (which is significant).

Originally posted by ronjsim1:

BTW, those same minutes barely touch on DLC and patches and when the subject is touched the answer is no promises to anything, done when done.

I wonder why they would keep their cards closer to their chest now? I wonder if maybe the fact that they previously shot themselves in the foot by being too forthcoming with their plans led them to being more careful about what they share now? I wonder...

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by JJ, Professional Fool:

I think this was never that good, but hype pretended it was.

Ironically, the ones who cared the least about the hype (ie: Those who understand how marketing and game development work) ended up being the ones who enjoyed the product the most. Interesting how being able to keep one's expectations in check leads to less disappointment.