Question about the ending (Spoilers)

[♠.brT]

I've just finished the game with the nomad ending, and i'm wondering something.


Remember at the start when Misty gives you her pills, one of those pills will accelerate the process of changing V into Johnny, in practice in the story, those pills are used to temporarily give Johnny control of V's body.

At the end (the nomad ending anyway) Alt tells V that the process had gone too far already and although she was able to split Johnny from V, she couldn't undo the changes to V's body, and that Vs body would from now on reject V (kinda like an immune system response against Vs brain or something like that).

Anyway, here's my question, there are several sidequest for Johnny that involve in V taking Misty's pills, i'm wondering if not doing said sidequest will change the situation for V (after the story ending). Has anyone tried that yet?

I really hope that this is NOT the case, because it would be really stupid for the developers to make what i think would be the best ending involve in the player literally skipping some of the most interesting sidequest in the game, but the entire plot of the pills made me question that ending which is why i am asking here if anybody got a different future outcome for V depending on if they did their sidequest as Johnny.

[Ubistvo]

Can't tell you yet! But I'm planning to end the nomad ending and to not take Mistys pills and refuse to help Johnny in any way hehe. So we will see, but I think there will be no difference in the ending...

[Zebedee]

The endings themselves don't change on that, no. There is an ending which links back to V's relationship with Johnny instead.

[♠.brT]

Originally posted by Ubistvo:

Can't tell you yet! But I'm planning to end the nomad ending and to not take Mistys pills and refuse to help Johnny in any way hehe. So we will see, but I think there will be no difference in the ending...

yeah i suspect there will be no difference either.

Originally posted by Zebedee:

The endings themselves don't change on that, no. There is an ending which links back to V's relationship with Johnny instead.

Suspected as much. What do you mean about the second point though? is that the ending where V allows Johnny to get control over the body? or is there another ending related to a different path (going with Johnny and rogue rather than Nomads?)

[Chawkarran]

No matter which path you choice, what you do, game implies V dies 6 months later no matter what.

Sadly, the endings are that bad. No comparison with witcher, witcher 2 or witcher 3. Cd Projekt dropped the ball really bad in this game.

About the "good ending", its with Panam. That let you "roleplay" a little and let you wash the bad taste in your mouth from the others endings.

[♠.brT]

I disagree with your opinions that the endings are "bad" at least the Nomad ending, i was pretty satisfied with it, even if a bit sadden by the prospect for V, a bittersweet ending is how i would describe it.

I also disagree with your opinion that the game implies that V dies 6 months later.
Nothing on the Nomad ending implied that. All that it does is tell that V is on a timer again. But the discussion with Panam at the end implies that maybe they can look for potential salvation for V. Obviously the game doesn't expand further than that, and maybe there is no salvation, but the game doesn't make a judgement on that either way.

My personal opinion on the 6+ month of life that V has left is that it is a fitting way to end V story in Night City. Because V was always living on borrowed time the moment Dex put a bullet in V's skull, V fought through out the game to expand that borrowed time, but at the end of the day, it is and always would be borrowed time, eventually the consequences of V's pursuit for glory and wealth had to catch up with V, and the borrowed time that V managed to hang onto ever since getting a bullet to the head would need to be paid back in full. Anything else would be a fairytale for Night City.

[Chawkarran]

Ending 1: You end up at the space station where arasaka tries to remove the Silverhand implant. They remove the implant but do irreparable damage to V. You can choose whether to put V's memory on the Arasaka mainframe or return to Earth, V dies in 6 months if you return.

Ending 2 aka nomads ending : Alt removes the Silverhands implant and informs you that you will only have 6 more months to live.

Ending 3: V found out that he/she will die no matter what he/she does. Because of this she/he let Silverhand take over his/her body. Jonhy doesnt die, since his implant take over V body.

Ending 4: V becomes the queen/king of afterlife with Rogue's death. In the end, he still has only 6 months to live, according to what Alt reports.

Ending 5: Suicide after Doc informed V is kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up.

Ending 6: Just harder end mission since theres no one to help you. In the end you need pick up end 3 or 4.

See, no matter what, V dies because Jonhy implant did way too much dmg to your brain . Alt reports this during the conversation that precedes the choice of the ending. Thats why i said the Panam, aka nomad, ending let you roleplay a little but you cant change the outcome.

[Cat®]

V's lifespan does not change based on this questline, no. The damage to V's brain is largely unrelated to their actions. The red pill serves story justification.

[Natya]

Originally posted by Chawkarran:

See, no matter what, V dies because Jonhy implant did way too much dmg to your brain [/spoiler]. Alt reports this during the conversation that precedes the choice of the ending. Thats why i said the Panam, aka nomad, ending let you roleplay a little but you cant change the outcome.

Ending 2 and Endingg 4/6 both spins a hopeful yarn for V's survival, in the Nomad Ending Panam suggests that they have contacts in Arizona that may be able to help V, it's clear that Panam hasn't given up and neither has V.

Meanwhile in the Afterlife Endings V has cut a deal with Mr. Blue Eyes of all people, we don't know what the AI and Night Corp executive's part of the bargain is but V clearly hasn't given up here either, though he does keep a realistic perspective of "Nothing to gain, nothing to lose."

Rogue also is certain in her belief that this gig is related to Johnny and the Chip if she's alive,

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by ♠.brT:

I've just finished the game with the nomad ending, and i'm wondering something.


Remember at the start when Misty gives you her pills, one of those pills will accelerate the process of changing V into Johnny, in practice in the story, those pills are used to temporarily give Johnny control of V's body.

At the end (the nomad ending anyway) Alt tells V that the process had gone too far already and although she was able to split Johnny from V, she couldn't undo the changes to V's body, and that Vs body would from now on reject V (kinda like an immune system response against Vs brain or something like that).

Anyway, here's my question, there are several sidequest for Johnny that involve in V taking Misty's pills, i'm wondering if not doing said sidequest will change the situation for V (after the story ending). Has anyone tried that yet?

I really hope that this is NOT the case, because it would be really stupid for the developers to make what i think would be the best ending involve in the player literally skipping some of the most interesting sidequest in the game, but the entire plot of the pills made me question that ending which is why i am asking here if anybody got a different future outcome for V depending on if they did their sidequest as Johnny.

Since you don't care about spoilers:

No it doesn't matter. V is boned no matter which side quests you do or which ending you pick. The only ending where he sort of gets to live on is the one where you side with arasaka. You let them store your personality engram in their giant brain prison computer (I forget what it's called) in the hope that they can give you a new body eventually.

[GrayHound]

This is simple: nothing you can do changes the game in any way.

[♠.brT]

Originally posted by Chawkarran:

See, no matter what, V dies because Jonhy implant did way too much dmg to your brain . Alt reports this during the conversation that precedes the choice of the ending. Thats why i said the Panam, aka nomad, ending let you roleplay a little but you cant change the outcome.

I'm not sure why you decided to list all the endings there, i presume you are replying to my comment where I said that the game doesn't make a judgement on V's actual future. And if that was your intention with that reply, you completly missed the point i made in my first reply to you.

The 6 month lifespan that V is informed about it, is not a conclusive "this is what happened" it is a statement of current situation. Similar to what happened when Victor saved V, that V only had a few weeks of life, well that was a true statement of the current situation, that if nothing was done, V would live for a few weeks. Well, something was done, and V lifespan was increased from a few weeks to 6 or more Months, again same thing, its not a conclusive statement that "you are dead in 6 months" more of, you'll die in six months if nothing is done.

We don't know if anything can be done, again, remember V previous situation was shown to us as terminal, well it wasn't exactly terminal was it if V was able to extend that to 6 more months right?

Do you get my point now?

The game does not make a judgement on V actual ending, and at least in the Nomad ending it leaves open the possibility that V could spend those 6 months of life in search for a potential cure or treatment.

Maybe the writers left that door open because they plan on using it in the future, or maybe they just left it open to give players room to interpret the ending and imagine how things may have turned out for V. Nobody but the writers would know the answer to these questions.

Also its not a question of "damage" to V's brain. The actual description of V's situation would fit more in line with a transplant rejection issue, where the body immune system will attack the transplanted tissue. Those are medical conditions that we even today have some types of treatment for it. I refuse to believe that in the world of Cyberpunk 2077, with all the advancements in the tech and medicine clearly shown in the world of Cyberpunk they wouldn't have even more advanced treatments for V's condition, even if super risky and experimental. So in my opinion the game was right to leave the door open (at least in the Nomad ending) that V could try and seek treatment.

Just an idea of potential treatment, if the issue for V is that the immune system is attacking the brain because the immune system now belongs to "johnny" which is a really stupid thing but anyway. If that is the case, a Bone Marrow transplant could solve it, all V would need is a clone of Johnny, lets get some Jurassic park science in this, and get his DNA from his Body or something like that and clone him like that. Its utterly insane, but no more insane than the idea that V's own immune system would changed its allegiances to Johnny. And that is medicine of today, imagine what kinda insane medicine they may have in that made up world of Cyberpunk 2077. So No, until proven otherwise V's condition is not hopeless.