Firefight with police; Starting to grind their numbers down; Occifer spawns right behind me; Instadeath

[Jakobb]

Firefight with police
Starting to grind their numbers down
Occifer spawns right behind me
Instadeath

I swear there was no one there before! And then, poop, he's there and boom, I'm not!

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[Affronter]

"Occifer"

Oh dear.

[Roderick]

Originally posted by Affronter:

"Occifer"

Oh dear.

Better than Lucifer spawning!

[Bahamut_A6M5]

Consider yourself lucky you can actually mow the first waves down. Personally, I'd give the patrolmen the armor defeating ammonition Protect and Serve suplement says they have, and let them kill you, even with frontal attacks during first wanted stars, rather than waiting for a SWAT to spawn behind you and off you with four or five stars.

Perhaps, that way, people would start taking the NCPD seriously. Or considering that cops might actually be dangerous if you aren't a gang or a corporation.

[GrayHound]

Originally posted by Bahamut_A6M5:

Consider yourself lucky you can actually mow the first waves down. Personally, I'd give the patrolmen the armor defeating ammonition Protect and Serve suplement says they have, and let them kill you, even with frontal attacks during first wanted stars, rather than waiting for a SWAT to spawn behind you and off you with four or five stars.

Perhaps, that way, people would start taking the NCPD seriously. Or considering that cops might actually be dangerous if you aren't a gang or a corporation.

A regular cop taking down a technological half-god with blood of thousands on his hands who's capable of murdering his way alone through the most secure place in Night City is pretty ridiculous. MaxTac shouldn't have instakill weapons either.

[Bahamut_A6M5]

Originally posted by GrayHound:

Originally posted by Bahamut_A6M5:

Consider yourself lucky you can actually mow the first waves down. Personally, I'd give the patrolmen the armor defeating ammonition Protect and Serve suplement says they have, and let them kill you, even with frontal attacks during first wanted stars, rather than waiting for a SWAT to spawn behind you and off you with four or five stars.

Perhaps, that way, people would start taking the NCPD seriously. Or considering that cops might actually be dangerous if you aren't a gang or a corporation.

A regular cop taking down a technological half-god with blood of thousands on his hands who's capable of murdering his way alone through the most secure place in Night City is pretty ridiculous. MaxTac shouldn't have instakill weapons either.

Issue is the NCPD actually has instakilling capabilities. A headshot with the armor defeating ammonition NCPD uses in their standard issue weapon can kill you (because that ammonition ignores the armor you use, no matter what amount you have).

Adam Smasher is a technological half-god (still, MaxTac has ways and weapons capable of knocking him down). A Dragoon (a full body conversion) is a technological half-god. V, at best, can equip herself with subdermal armor (not even armor plates, like Smasher does). With the PnP ruleset in hands, V couldn't be the "technological half-god with blood of thousands on his hands who's capable of murdering his way alone through the most secure place in Night City". Keep in mind all those feats are only possible because CDPR has given up on a lot of mechanics in favor of "playability" and cattering to videogamers.

For the record, and as an example, in Cyberpunk there's nothing like MaxDoc or BounceBack, literally magical healing potions which bring V from the brink of death to full strenght in a whiff (healing drugs in Cyberpunk only quicken the natural healing process in the span of several days). Biomonitors or second hearts are of no use if you take a .50 caliber bullet into your head, scattering your grey matter all over the place. There's no cyberware able to fix something like that.

[GlorFindel1983]

Welcome to the Night City, where police instantly know you commited crime, instantly know where you commited that crime and instantly teleport to your location and usually spawn right behind you!

[pale_horse]

Originally posted by GrayHound:

A regular cop taking down a technological half-god with blood of thousands on his hands who's capable of murdering his way alone through the most secure place in Night City is pretty ridiculous. MaxTac shouldn't have instakill weapons either.

V is a minor mercenary, not a "technological half-god". NCPD MaxTac/CSWAT deals with things far more dangerous than V every day and night.

Cybersquads are common to most urban police departments, going under names like C-SWAT, PSYCHE-DIV, or CYBEnforcement. They are armed with the best in armor, commo-equipment and vehicles. Most carry weapons that start at the light cannon range and up. They are, by nature, not very nice people.

C-SWAT became MAX-TAC, and is still called as that by some departments: the official title in Night City currently is Cyborg Suppression Unit. Individual units are known as SPAR teams (Special,Purpose Assault Rescue). It is the bottom line in combat police officers. Specifically created to deal directly with the ever present cyberpsycho threat, these officers are trained and equipped with the best resources money can buy. All officers are supremely fit and agile, and able to withstand a great deal of damage. Cyber-augmentation is common, if not mandatory. Max-Tac officers' enhanced abilities allow them to be the equal of any cyberpsycho. Weapons and armor of the most effective kind are placed at their disposal, as are combat vehicles, including fully equipped AV-9s.

Originally a division of SWAT, Max-Tac's actual role has expanded since its creation. While they are the only real force capable of dealing with the cyberpsycho threat effectively, they are occasionally also utilized as a higher form of SWAT. In any situation where SWAT fails, Max-Tac will arrive. Their job is almost always Hit Hard and Shoot to Kill. In many ways, they are as dangerous as those they are brought in to fight: many officers are teetering on the brink of cyberpsychosis themselves. NCPD sees this "fight fire with fire" strategy as effective.[2]

[Wisp Cat]

Originally posted by Bahamut_A6M5:

For the record, and as an example, in Cyberpunk there's nothing like MaxDoc or BounceBack, literally magical healing potions which bring V from the brink of death to full strenght in a whiff (healing drugs in Cyberpunk only quicken the natural healing process in the span of several days). Biomonitors or second hearts are of no use if you take a .50 caliber bullet into your head, scattering your grey matter all over the place. There's no cyberware able to fix something like that.

Earlier cyberpunk games, ... yes.

It would be fun if someone modded the game (or if there was DLC for the game) which was much closer to the earlier game rules. Of course, for the player, the days of healing would fly on by in a few seconds.

But this would also require a plot without a "doomed to die soon" character, so there's also some new story telling that would be needed.

[vschmidth]

Originally posted by Wednesday Crisis:

It would be fun if someone modded the game (or if there was DLC for the game) which was much closer to the earlier game rules. Of course, for the player, the days of healing would fly on by in a few seconds.

This. But modders need a CK/devkit to be fully implement it on a Game Overhaul kinda scope which is and I hope will be release/open to public after they finish working with CP2077.

[Jakobb]

Originally posted by pale_horse:

V is a minor mercenary, not a "technological half-god". NCPD MaxTac/CSWAT deals with things far more dangerous than V every day and night.

The great mountain of mutilated corpses behind V suggest otherwise.

Also Fixer "Capitan" just called me a "rare breed" of Merc'. I believe him over you. ;)