Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 1:54
I feel that I am missing something with Rivers.
I am doing the Rivers quest line again, and find myself uninterested with his conversation. Aside from the extremely disturbing situations involved within his quest line, I just feel Rivers is a bit of a loser and lacks a full personality.

Of all of the story characters, he is the only one that I find spiritless. Being such, am I cannot help but wonder if I am missing something, or is this the way it is to others. I know he is a romance character for female V's, so maybe he is insipid to me because he is created for a different point of view.

What are your thoughts on River?
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SeeEmilyPlay 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 2:12 
He is a bit on the bland side imo too, especially considering how fiery the other romance characters' personalities are. I don't see him as a loser, but he's not terribly interesting.
EddystoneM17 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 2:37 
I played as female V and my experience with River was no different. A tad lifeless and droll. But maybe night city had got the better of him.
When he was cooking it seemed like that was the best day he had in months. Then you sit down, he's straight onto being sad again. Then time to eat "Happy"....

He certainly seemed like he always had something on his mind. Only gave me his full attention when he wanted a smooch, again during a time of reflection and sadness.....

Much like Jackie, he wont become a Legend of night city.
Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 2:42 
引用自 |HP|SeeEmilyPlay
He is a bit on the bland side imo too, especially considering how fiery the other romance characters' personalities are. I don't see him as a loser, but he's not terribly interesting.
Maybe loser is a bit harsh. I just feel he is directionless, and seem to have no real motivations or interests. The only thing in his defense, is he seems to be a good family man, maybe. He dismissidly discusses one future path, but shortly after comes back with he does not know.

Judy, Panam, Kerry, Victor, Saul, Misty, Regina, Wakako, and the list goes on. They all have something that drives them and real dimension to their personalities. I find River to be like a painting on the wall that is there, so the wall is not empty.

Saul would have been a much better option for a female romance, and maybe swap the final parts of Saul and Panam for those that choose that path. Those that played the game will know what I mean.

The thing is, maybe River is just the kind of person that women or a homosexual man would want. I do not have that insight, so my perspective is different.
Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 2:45 
引用自 EddystoneM17
I played as female V and my experience with River was no different. A tad lifeless and droll. But maybe night city had got the better of him.
When he was cooking it seemed like that was the best day he had in months. Then you sit down, he's straight onto being sad again. Then time to eat "Happy"....

He certainly seemed like he always had something on his mind. Only gave me his full attention when he wanted a smooch, again during a time of reflection and sadness.....

Much like Jackie, he wont become a Legend of night city.

Ah, this is definitely the insight I am looking for. I did not think of the sadness thing. I supposed depression can come across as boring to someone who is not aware. That, in my opinion, makes him even worse for a romance option. He needs a psychiatrist, not a quick fling with a dying person.
Stranger3 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 3:53 
Maybe it has something to do with a voice actor? He speaks the same lifeless tone all the time. Or maybe he is just poorly written. As much as I liked doing his quest, I felt like he is very disconected from everything around. SPOILER! Even after the ending while some people send you emotional and interesting messages, he just mainly talks about some stack of guns he found and put to use. I coudnt care less. And Ive heard some feedback from women who found him as being too much perfect and cliche guy to be interested with.
Xiane 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 4:02 
引用自 Old Man Gamer (OMG)
引用自 EddystoneM17
I played as female V and my experience with River was no different. A tad lifeless and droll. But maybe night city had got the better of him.
When he was cooking it seemed like that was the best day he had in months. Then you sit down, he's straight onto being sad again. Then time to eat "Happy"....

He certainly seemed like he always had something on his mind. Only gave me his full attention when he wanted a smooch, again during a time of reflection and sadness.....

Much like Jackie, he wont become a Legend of night city.

Ah, this is definitely the insight I am looking for. I did not think of the sadness thing. I supposed depression can come across as boring to someone who is not aware. That, in my opinion, makes him even worse for a romance option. He needs a psychiatrist, not a quick fling with a dying person.


Think of River along the same lines of Barry. A good cop in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ city. Had Randy died, its very easy to see River going either Frank Castle or putting his iron between his teeth.
The Comedian 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 4:11 
He is quite bland, probably the least interesting of the the key NPC's.
The issue I have with all of the main NPC's is that once their story lines are done - they just basically fade away. Most have a farewell text then that is it - bit of an immersion breaker, and signals to me that the time crunch for the game probably had an impact here. Claire's mission is a prime example - her story arc had some emotional undertones, yet there is no mention of any of it when you catch up after the mission in the Afterlife - just the standard canned response.
Really reinforces to me that this game is all about the main story and key side quests, and once they are done that is pretty much it.
The replayability is really limited to choosing different life paths - and the differences there are pretty minor. Yes you can experiment with builds - but 3 run throughs for the life paths pretty much covers that.
Hope the DLC is not too far away... wait too long and even the die hard players will have moved on.
Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 9:22 
引用自 Stranger3
Maybe it has something to do with a voice actor? He speaks the same lifeless tone all the time. Or maybe he is just poorly written. As much as I liked doing his quest, I felt like he is very disconected from everything around. SPOILER! Even after the ending while some people send you emotional and interesting messages, he just mainly talks about some stack of guns he found and put to use. I coudnt care less. And Ive heard some feedback from women who found him as being too much perfect and cliche guy to be interested with.

He is not the most exciting voice actor, but I am not sure that is what bothers me about him. The writing and having him seem so disconnected seems to be more the issue. An actor can have an even tone voice and still deliver. Clint Eastwood has done it perfectly many time. You just need the right lines to speak. Feels weird, because everything else in the game is absolutely brilliant, and then there is River.


引用自 Xiane
引用自 Old Man Gamer (OMG)

Ah, this is definitely the insight I am looking for. I did not think of the sadness thing. I supposed depression can come across as boring to someone who is not aware. That, in my opinion, makes him even worse for a romance option. He needs a psychiatrist, not a quick fling with a dying person.


Think of River along the same lines of Barry. A good cop in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ city. Had Randy died, its very easy to see River going either Frank Castle or putting his iron between his teeth.

This makes a lot of sense. They really need to add another dimension to him, than depressed and transition though. Makes his story feel incomplete, so he never really has a character arc. He becomes more of a segment. This in mind, River could be an excellent character, given something more to define him.
Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 17 日 上午 9:26 
引用自 The Comedian
He is quite bland, probably the least interesting of the the key NPC's.
The issue I have with all of the main NPC's is that once their story lines are done - they just basically fade away. Most have a farewell text then that is it - bit of an immersion breaker, and signals to me that the time crunch for the game probably had an impact here. Claire's mission is a prime example - her story arc had some emotional undertones, yet there is no mention of any of it when you catch up after the mission in the Afterlife - just the standard canned response.
Really reinforces to me that this game is all about the main story and key side quests, and once they are done that is pretty much it.
The replayability is really limited to choosing different life paths - and the differences there are pretty minor. Yes you can experiment with builds - but 3 run throughs for the life paths pretty much covers that.
Hope the DLC is not too far away... wait too long and even the die hard players will have moved on.

This is actually a very good point, and something that bothered me about Witcher 3 as well. I wanted to get more out of the conversations with Dandelion, Yennefer and the whole gang, but once you did it, there was nothing left to get but the one liner that they would repeat, if you could find them.

I know that it is not an easy request, to give a prolonged life to a character that has several variants of their character arc. If they did something vague that fit all of the outcomes, people would just attack them for not having a defined outcome for the path they chose. The writers have done fantastic, and it shows by how those that follow the details want more. I take hope in the fact that this is a new release that has a lengthy future ahead of it.
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