I feel there are two different Cyberpunk games

[Maulite]

I have a pretty high spec PC. I bought it two months before Cyberpunk for the new generation of games. So when I started playing it, I didn't have the major problems reported in the media. It's like there are two different games - one that works and one that doesn't. I actually wish CD Projekt Red had just focused on new generation systems, then there wouldn't have been all this backlash. There are a lot of gamers I've spoken to that want to play it but don't want to be disappointing. It just depends on what system you have. What does everyone else think?

[Blackmage]

Agreed, the game should have launched as a PC exclusive and then ported to consoles with their 3-4 year development plan.

The launch debacle is the perfect example of what happens when they don't let a talented development team do their job.

[Nite69]

it does have 2 different versions, Console and PC, the console version has way more critical problems, were as the PC version only has minor bugs and it is playable 100% all missions work

This example site here shows more players on PC version for that reason

https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=2127

[wallace831916]

well

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

given the whole PS5 situation I don't think a lot of people are ever going to see how it was supposed to be on consoles anytime soon.

[LemonyNebula]

I feel the same. People keep saying it works on PC, yet mine is unplayable.

[kazereal]

My guess is that some people really haven't looked at what the minimum specifications are or just don't understand how they compare to what they have. Sure, they might be given optimistically but it should be clear that you can't with highest settings on minimum specifications. Of course there are glitches in the game but every game has bugs: most of those are not game-breaking but merely annoyances (1.12 in use). Maybe some people just want some attention or are venting unrelated frustrations on this game..

[Affronter]

I don't know what "everyone else thinks".

CPMMLXXVII runs perfectly fine on my system from a performance standpoint. Mind you I don't bother with RTSS or 1440P.

[LemonyNebula]

引用自 kazereal：

My guess is that some people really haven't looked at what the minimum specifications are or just don't understand how they compare to what they have.

You will always have those people, I mean that is part of PC gaming. You need to try to stay ahead of the tech if you want to run things at their best.

This game however is just broken for people though, such as the framerate bug.
For example I have an RTX 2070S, i7 6700k, 16gb and yet I find the framerate drop below 30 on the lowest settings on the lowest resolution.
That is not normal.
Almost every other game I have been able to keep at least above 30 on ultra 4k (I usually tweak for 60). So even if this game had reason to be more demanding, I should be able to run it at ultra 1080p fine, or medium-high 4k. (No i don't expect any raytracing on this game either)

But for it not to run low on a potato resolution shows a clear issue. I feel I have gone above and beyond what should be expected from me as well with 2 months of back and forth with CDPR and Nvidia to try to help solve it, but the only resolution anyone came to was Nvidia confirming it is unlikely to be my build and it being the game itself, while CDPR just seems stumped.

Venting is nice too however, as on realising CDPR had no clue and was unlikely to be able to fix it I thought it was fair to ask for a refund as the game did not run on what should be a capable system, but instead they just stopped replying completely once I asked.
You know, after making me go over the refund period and game time through testing in the first place...

[Mickk]

引用自 Maulite：

-cut- What does everyone else think?

I can understand how you feel OP.
There are so many negative posts about cyberpunk you could easily think that the software simply will not work but the more you hang about the forum you gain an understanding of what is going on.

There are many people here that I feel watched the media and somehow thought that it was representative of how it would perform on their device. When it became apparent to them that this was not the case they chose to go to the forums and raise hell about the game.

Then there are others that don't seem to be stating what is actually happening for them in an accurate manner.
Case in point is the quote below.

引用自 LemonyNebula：

I feel the same. People keep saying it works on PC, yet mine is unplayable.

Now that sounds or implies that when the user clicks play it doesn't play ie: it's unplayable yet reading more of this persons posts you learn that the software runs fine but is simply a case the user is unsatisfied with the performance. When I first read one of this users posts I was willing to think about the issue and consider an appropriately helpful response but upon further reading of several more of his posts I feel I have come to the same conclusion as CPDR support.

I must have bought the version that works, thankfully I paid no more for it than anyone else. I have a blast with the game and am at over 200 hours in-game running on a GTX1070, I7-6700@3.4Ghz so in my mind I don't have a beast of a pc yet seem to have a better experience than those with better specs.

[kazereal]

引用自 LemonyNebula：

This game however is just broken for people though, such as the framerate bug.
For example I have an RTX 2070S, i7 6700k, 16gb and yet I find the framerate drop below 30 on the lowest settings on the lowest resolution.

I've played this on Linux with AMDGPU (in kernel driver) and Mesa 21.0-rc5: with older Mesa (20.3) the framerate dropped in certain places but with newer Mesa this is not a problem. Main differences there are in the ACO shader compiler I think.

So I guess you need to look at Nvidia's drivers to fix the issue you are having?

[Kleerex]

There are people who install their games on an SSD and regularly upgrade other parts of their PC, and then there's the rest.

[talemore]

引用自 Kleerex：

There are people who install their games on an SSD and regularly upgrade other parts of their PC, and then there's the rest.

Are you really going that route that you think consoles and PC work the same way. Your pc load the game from the RAM and bypass any of your so called SSD who only going to matter a single time when in loading screen. The main reason why the SSD was introduced was because of the cheap cost of making them. Not that they were any better than mechanic disks. SSD is a commercial cash cow for how cheap they're to make but they come with other issues like able to forget data(memory leaking) and eventually erase all data when expired.

[Ashtaroph]

I bought the game last year, November for my birthday.
wasnt planning on playing it because at Christmas I had planned on buying myself a virtually new pc system, increased ram, new ssd hard drive, new graphics card and a new case with better airflow. managed to get everything bar the graphics card, went ahead and built anyhow, reloaded OS etc then downloaded the game again.
It ran perfectly fine, my card was an AMD R9 and the software for it was reporting it as below minimum spec for CyberPunk, then decided I'd shelve it until after the January update, while waiting I managed to finally get hold off an AMD RX5600 XT, not what I wanted but wasn't prepared to pay upwards of £900 for the card I'd have liked. anyhow, cards software reports the card is above spec for this game.
Have now been playing CyberPunk for a few hours, runs brilliantly, Card is reporting my FPS at an average of 55.6.
Had a couple of very minor glitch's with scenery but nothing that impacts the game.

[LemonyNebula]

引用自 Mickk：

Now that sounds or implies that when the user clicks play it doesn't play ie: it's unplayable yet reading more of this persons posts you learn that the software runs fine but is simply a case the user is unsatisfied with the performance.

Something running under 30fps is broken and unplayable. I don't even think that should be a case of preference that should be a standard as that begins to affect the illusion of movement itself. Only time that should be accepted is if you knowingly buy the game being under the specifications and are willing to drop that low.

引用自 kazereal：

I've played this on Linux with AMDGPU (in kernel driver) and Mesa 21.0-rc5: with older Mesa (20.3) the framerate dropped in certain places but with newer Mesa this is not a problem. Main differences there are in the ACO shader compiler I think.

So I guess you need to look at Nvidia's drivers to fix the issue you are having?

I have looked at Nvidia's drivers and also contacted them on advise by CDPR and they were incredibly helpful at trying to see if they could solve the problem for me. (I expected them to turn me away as it's not their game). They made me stress test and push my system, told me to try multiple changes to my Nvidia graphics settings and send them a bunch of stuff.

They came to the conclusion that all tests isolate it down to being an issue with this game.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

I think that the Performence is the least Problem for the most People when it comes to this Game, thats at least what i get from many Reviews, but no Doubt there are also a lot of People who have extrem Performence Problems not just on the Console. I think that it was an extrem Mistake to develop this Game along with the Engine, recently someone quoted Gabe from Valve, according to that he said something like "never developer a Game along with the Engine" and CDPR broke that Rule with a devastating Result wich forced them to a Decision, either delay the Game even more cancel it or push it out and scam the People who waited 8 Years for it and we all should know wich of the 3 Options they choosed. Sure some of these Points are just guessing, but i think with all the Info that is avilable, its just logic to assume what i have said. Either Way defending this Scam is a Nogo for me, no matter how good it runs for some People.