Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Savagenation 2021 年 2 月 25 日 下午 5:42
Zen Master side quests
Ok, this is a game right? We can all agree Cyberpunk is a game. Thus, in a game, there is a thing called progession, decisions, consequences etc., things that match, ryhme and make sense to derive to some end, conclusion or consequence (good / bad).

So in each of the side quests throughout the entire chain quest you have an option to pay what ever you want. Now as a strategist / gamer, I pay him if you can because you are hoping there is some point or benefit as a ending result. As it turns out, nothing. Doesn't matter if you pay him or not, result is the same, end is the same. Their is no consequence good or bad to spending the cash.

The other thing that makes no sense is that each time as you progress to the next quest in the chain the option to give Euros is higher each time. This makes no sense nor has any relevance. And you only have one option to choose from in the amount you want to decide to pay. This is also a bad design by the developers.

At least give a high and low option along with no option at all. In addition, add some context or relevance to V's generosity if costs are to be designed in V's role play options with the monk. If you are a developer and are reading this with no clue what I'm talking about, then stop what you are doing right now, go find the nearest pier and keep walking 'til your hat floats!

Folks, this is what I mean by laziness. They (developers) spent so much time in programming, developing, adding these four quest (quest chain) and for what? There are no consequences, there is no relevance, there is no progression for tie-in or story, just some senseless convo with Johnny and go see misty to get another stupid tarot reading with her weird stupid looks that make no sense. I'd rather her be naked and show me her ta tas, at least that be worth something.

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最後修改者:Savagenation; 2021 年 3 月 12 日 上午 6:26
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crgzero 2021 年 2 月 25 日 下午 8:04 
What makes no SENSE is that in this modern era where information is so easily accessed that someone repeatedly misuses SINCE especially when they're trying so hard to sound like they're actually smart or something.
Old Man Gamer (OMG) 2021 年 2 月 25 日 下午 8:07 
Oh, and you get an item for your apartment upon completing the quest as well.
Empukris 2021 年 2 月 26 日 上午 2:37 
These supposed to give you some clue on the ending I think. Probably cut content also? Im not sure but people normally google the secret ending so thats the problem.

Yes and that whatever amount you want to pay is really a Buddhist teaching. If there is a monk that told me I need to pay him fix amount of 100$ for his service, that guaranteed not 100% monk. It is strictly forbidden to have greed. So it is more of a RP element and immersion there. Im Buddhist btw.
最後修改者:Empukris; 2021 年 2 月 26 日 上午 2:44
Afterdark 2021 年 2 月 26 日 上午 2:54 
I stopped reading after you spelled sense "since" twice in a row.
Good_old_roman 2022 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:54 
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I think a lot of you are missing the point. This entire sequence is about letting go of the material world and finding inner motivation and validation as opposed to seeking external rewards.
Enlightenment and inner peace are about coexisting and relinquishing the desire for control. Paying the monk is indicative of helping your fellow human as he has helped you, but the monk has no attachment to worldly things: he appreciates the charity but neither expects payment nor is offended by a lack thereof. This brief peaceful sidejaunt brings both v and the player a sense of renewal and lets the tension rest. I like my meetings with the monk and am glad to pay him for what has been a valuable series of lessons, far more valuable than a CDPR T-Shirt in my stash or some halfassed iconic pistol
最後修改者:Good_old_roman; 2022 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:55
Bogmore 2022 年 5 月 27 日 上午 2:08 
So do people go back to Misty after you talk to her about the images you see everywhere?

She reads your Tarot
Vela Darney 2022 年 5 月 27 日 下午 3:38 
引用自 Savagenation
that is where you are wrong, I am the gamer, I am the customer and I have the right to say what I like and don't like in addition to dictating to the company of what I and the community think sells and don't sell.

Nope, you don't get to dictate ♥♥♥♥ about how a game company wants to make their game and how they want it to work. Only thing you get to dictate is whether or not you wanna spend money on it.
DaylightDemon 2022 年 5 月 27 日 下午 4:26 
yeah i kinda hated those. they where *fine* i guess when played once. but yeah theres no point to these other than maybe a small roleplay aspect of "im gonna have me time with the monk in this crazy city bc my v rolls that way".
MisterPool 2022 年 5 月 27 日 下午 4:52 
引用自 Savagenation
that is where you are wrong, I am the gamer, I am the customer and I have the right to say what I like and don't like...

Fair point.

引用自 Savagenation
...in addition to dictating to the company of what I and the community think sells and don't sell.

Total b*llocks. You don't dictate, and you aren't the sole representative of the community. Besides, CDPR is going to have way more marketing data on their own games than you could ever hope to gather. They are going to make the game they want to make for the audience they want to make it for. If you think that your sole opinion should dictate what they do then you are delusional.
damion.ord 2022 年 5 月 28 日 上午 4:27 
引用自 Savagenation
that is where you are wrong, I am the gamer, I am the customer and I have the right to say what I like and don't like in addition to dictating to the company of what I and the community think sells and don't sell.

"I am the customer" nope, the customer is not always right. Did you invest millions of dollars and man hours in the product? If your answer is no then STFU.

Check your privilege.
123 2023 年 9 月 13 日 下午 1:17 
引用自 Savagenation
So in each of the side quests throughout the entire chain quest you have an option to pay what ever you want. Now as a strategist/gamer, I pay him if you can because you are hoping there is some point or benefit as a ending result. As it turns out, nothing. Doesn't matter if you pay him or not, result is the same, end is the same.

This. I paid every time as well, curious what it might get me. Would be even fine for me if both options do "same", it would fit to the whole Zen-Idea anyway. But how about explaining it then, give it some meaning, give a hint at the end like oh, we donate all your donations to some other cause blabla and free is just fine for us (because...) or such? If there's no explanation at all, just a behind-the-scenes "no choice"-scenario masked as a choice, this is just bad quest-design. Could skip this option as well, because, what for?
Torchfire 2024 年 1 月 15 日 上午 11:40 
Has anyone noticed how the Zen Master's eyes briefly glow blue just before every BD session?
Wonder if that's related to the conspiracy theorists crazed ramblings about "aliens with blue eyes"?
Vela Darney 2024 年 1 月 15 日 上午 11:43 
Nah, I think he's just transferring the meditations to you. Eyes generally glow blue briefly when someone sends you money or data.
Josip Broz Tito 2024 年 1 月 15 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 Torchfire
Has anyone noticed how the Zen Master's eyes briefly glow blue just before every BD session?
Wonder if that's related to the conspiracy theorists crazed ramblings about "aliens with blue eyes"?
Eyes glow blue during the money\data transfers.. it's with every character :\
wesnef 2024 年 1 月 15 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 Savagenation
Now as a strategist / gamer, I pay him if you can because you are hoping there is some point or benefit as a ending result. As it turns out, nothing. Doesn't matter if you pay him or not, result is the same, end is the same. Their is no consequence good or bad to spending the cash.

There isn't nothing - you roleplayed a generous person. Who thought that there was value in his teachings.

edit: dammit, didn't notice it's a necro. From 2021.
最後修改者:wesnef; 2024 年 1 月 15 日 下午 1:11
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