cyberphsycosis vs suicide

[Mr.Pessimism]

so my character is net runner. And to be frank cyberphsycosis just doesn't work well enough for my tastes generally its more of a distraction for a stealth build than anything else. while suicide at least the legendary version will bring down the cost of quick hacks by how many people panic. so imo suicide is the better option of the two.

or am i missing something.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

I tend to agree, if you want to get rid of the enemies faster. Suicide is quicker - instant; cyberpsychosis takes longer to run it's course because the affected enemy has to attack and kill their allies. They also may die before that happens, and they will also attack you once their allies have died.

[Avy]

If by Suicide you mean Contagion then yes.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

Originally posted by aVy:

If by Suicide you mean Contagion then yes.

Suicide and Contagion are 2 separate hacks. With Suicide the enemy will pull out a pistol and shoot themselves in the head, dying immediately.

[Coors]

I replaced Suicide with Cyberpsychosis. But I hardly even use it anymore. Contagion, Overheat, Short Circuit and System Reset are just more effective for me.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

Contagion is great, coz it can affect multiple enemies and depending on your level and skill-set, it can kill them without having to finish them off or re-apply it.

[Diablerie]

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

Originally posted by aVy:

If by Suicide you mean Contagion then yes.

Suicide and Contagion are 2 separate hacks. With Suicide the enemy will pull out a pistol and shoot themselves in the head, dying immediately.

you kinda missed the point of his comment lol.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

Originally posted by Diablerie:

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

Suicide and Contagion are 2 separate hacks. With Suicide the enemy will pull out a pistol and shoot themselves in the head, dying immediately.

you kinda missed the point of his comment lol.

oh.. I guess so lol

[Grimsdottir]

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

I tend to agree, if you want to get rid of the enemies faster. Suicide is quicker - instant; cyberpsychosis takes longer to run it's course because the affected enemy has to attack and kill their allies. They also may die before that happens, and they will also attack you once their allies have died.

I think your spec into quick hacks also matters because I once went into a higher level area. One particular guy was giving me issues. So I figured I'd make him kill himself. Did the quick hack.
Dude puts his pistol up to this own head.
Pop!
Small quarter of his health drains
*blinking guy gif*
Dude who just shot himself in the head and took it like a champ "Someone is here!"
Me: "Well that wasn't the intended outcome."

[Wisp Cat]

For what it's worth, in my netrunner build: Contagion is too slow to be worth using.

[halbermensch999]

Originally posted by Grimsdottir:

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

I tend to agree, if you want to get rid of the enemies faster. Suicide is quicker - instant; cyberpsychosis takes longer to run it's course because the affected enemy has to attack and kill their allies. They also may die before that happens, and they will also attack you once their allies have died.

I think your spec into quick hacks also matters because I once went into a higher level area. One particular guy was giving me issues. So I figured I'd make him kill himself. Did the quick hack.
Dude puts his pistol up to this own head.
Pop!
Small quarter of his health drains
*blinking guy gif*
Dude who just shot himself in the head and took it like a champ "Someone is here!"
Me: "Well that wasn't the intended outcome."

Yes, it seems the game reads how powerful the weapon and the AI is, so it doesn't always killt hem. Pretty nice detail actually.

[Coors]

Another thing worth mentioning. Neither one is a guaranteed kill. It might have to do with fighting higher level enemies but there are times where they survive the gunshot. System Reset on the other hand works every time. And it's non-lethal for keeping cyberpsychos and others alive if you wish.

[SeeEmilyPlay]

Originally posted by Grimsdottir:

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

I tend to agree, if you want to get rid of the enemies faster. Suicide is quicker - instant; cyberpsychosis takes longer to run it's course because the affected enemy has to attack and kill their allies. They also may die before that happens, and they will also attack you once their allies have died.

I think your spec into quick hacks also matters because I once went into a higher level area. One particular guy was giving me issues. So I figured I'd make him kill himself. Did the quick hack.
Dude puts his pistol up to this own head.
Pop!
Small quarter of his health drains
*blinking guy gif*
Dude who just shot himself in the head and took it like a champ "Someone is here!"
Me: "Well that wasn't the intended outcome."

Oh wow, ok. I haven't experienced that so I assumed it was instant (you'd think that it should be right? After all, it's not called "Attempted Suicide" lol).

[Grimsdottir]

Originally posted by Coors:

Another thing worth mentioning. Neither one is a guaranteed kill. It might have to do with fighting higher level enemies but there are times where they survive the gunshot. System Reset on the other hand works every time. And it's non-lethal for keeping cyberpsychos and others alive if you wish.

Yeah.. I found out the hard way with the suicide hack.
Indeed System reset and contagion is very OP with the right cyberdeck and skills.

[Grimsdottir]

Originally posted by |HP|SeeEmilyPlay:

Originally posted by Grimsdottir:

I think your spec into quick hacks also matters because I once went into a higher level area. One particular guy was giving me issues. So I figured I'd make him kill himself. Did the quick hack.
Dude puts his pistol up to this own head.
Pop!
Small quarter of his health drains
*blinking guy gif*
Dude who just shot himself in the head and took it like a champ "Someone is here!"
Me: "Well that wasn't the intended outcome."

Oh wow, ok. I haven't experienced that so I assumed it was instant (you'd think that it should be right? After all, it's not called "Attempted Suicide" lol).

I think it had to do with how under leveled I was and how little I had in quick hacks in terms of damage buffs. So yeah. When this dude who had killed me repeatedly just shrugged off that 9mm directly to his skull. I decided I was going to avoid him at all costs. I did laugh though.

[Mr.Pessimism]

hrmm i have never had anyone survive the suicide quick hack. now i have had them survive contagion and other damage quick hacks. there is a bug with certain npcs that they basically have god mode. can't be killed by almost anything. when that happens i use system reset.

i am heavy intelligence quick hacking and daemons build. my contagion does about 5k hp damage.

also heavy stealth.

the whole point of this build is to make adam smasher suicide.