Assassin's Creed Odyssey is actually a better RPG than Cyberpunk. That is horrible.

[dr.rosenrosen]

I can't believe the creators of the Witcher were outdone by a franchise that is just learning RPG.

The ships in ACO drive better than C2077's cars. The story is better. The dialogue is even better. Amount of content isn't close.

ACO is *not* a great RPG. Unless, you compare it to C2077.

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

This isn't ACO forum though.

[Bishop-Six]

*yawn*

[Turbo Nozomix]

Assassin's Creed games aren't RPGs, either. They're Action-Adventures. Dishonest greedy publisher marketing doesn't change that fact.

[dr.rosenrosen]

Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:

Assassin's Creed games aren't RPGs, either. They're Action-Adventures. Dishonest greedy publisher marketing doesn't change that fact.

Mostly agreed. Which is why it is even sadder that ACO is a better game than one done by the "good guys" behind GOG. It's mind blowing.

[dr.rosenrosen]

Originally posted by O.Gefr.Löring.363VD:

*yawn*

Were you the lead dev behind vehicles by any chance? Or maybe police AI?

[RicoSuave$$]

Rolling on floor laughing! even though i enjoyed Odyssey. I cant even remember any characters name from that title but Cyberpunk is Way better(my opinion)

[Dr.Abscondus]

I loved Odyssey. Still, completely irrelevant to discussions about Cyberpunk.

[Family Guy Gaming]

"rpg" means nothing anymore lol. The term has been dumbed down by AAA companies for years, and is so broad at this point that every game can be considered an RPG.

[dr.rosenrosen]

Originally posted by MeatMan:

"rpg" means nothing anymore lol. The term has been dumbed down by AAA companies for years, and is so broad at this point that every game can be considered an RPG.

Things have gotten worse for sure. But a small shop like Owlcat pulled off Pathfinder Kingmaker and they are making a sequel. That game is an actual RPG and is better than ACO or Cyberpunk.

I am amused by the people barking that ACO has nothing to do with Cyberpunk. Last I looked a huge number of posts on steam are comparison threads. I get that the little fan boys get salty but the fact is their heroes were crushed by ACO and many other games that are not considered great RPGs.

When you claim that you're creating some kind of masterpiece like CDPR did and then release what they did in Cyberpunk it's just sad.

[dulany67]

ACO is a better game, no doubt. Better RPG? I don't think so, but CP isn't exactly up there with the great RPG's either.

[woodenbox]

Flanewar time again?

[\Forever Alone/]

Originally posted by Im doing my part!:

Originally posted by dulany67:

ACO is a better game, no doubt. Better RPG? I don't think so, but CP isn't exactly up there with the great RPG's either.

Better RPG than 2077.

They're both action games, but at least Odyssey still pretending to be some sort of RPG, ranging from you being able to kill or save kassandra, the way you talk to her has lasting effects, your actions can get Myrrine, your mother, killed, you, yourself, can kill Nikolaus, all the way to small fish like whether or not you're able to join forces with that black gladiator gal that i can't remember the name of, the Agapios quest where when you think you're doing the right thing by listening to his pleas, his brother actually kicks him off a cliff, or the plagued family quest, that again, if you choose to spare, ends up sentencing the whole of Kephalonia island to death.

Meanwhile in cyberpunk 2077 i can't even get rid of that silverhand plonker, both general and specific (path) dialogue are utterly meaningless and lead to the exact same conversations every time, and the endings are the same ♥♥♥♥ with different smell across the board. Miserable because "its cyberpunk bro" and little else.

Never played obyssey but fact is only thing what cyperpunk does is RPG in term is letting you choose to go thru front door or back door in side missions. While talking results same 98% time. Be 10 attitude to say stop that soldier. Okay... But in the end same happesn. Whole panam energy plant thing. Hey we could overboost this system even more to increase effect of explosion to bring down flying car... Panam THat´s great idea and nothing happens... Nothing happens at all... You identically do same thing. Fact even if that skill requiments allowed quicker end mission and save some nomads. I would been happy. It does nothing...

But in sense only thing this game tries copy is borderlands. While having broken system and awful world to do set thing. When i expected origins from this game. I expected 1 character based quest what would matter. It does not matter... Hey i could meet youtube´r as nomad... Lovely...

[Lord Ainz]

Originally posted by corlandom:

Originally posted by Turbo Nozomix:

Assassin's Creed games aren't RPGs, either. They're Action-Adventures. Dishonest greedy publisher marketing doesn't change that fact.

Mostly agreed. Which is why it is even sadder that ACO is a better game than one done by the "good guys" behind GOG. It's mind blowing.

AC odyssey a better game than cyberpunk? HA now thats a good joke!

cyberpunk may be a buggy mess but at least its well written, has memorable characters, and isnt a unfun grindy mess unlike origins, odyssey, and valhalla

[Wisp Cat]

Originally posted by \Forever Alone/:

Never played obyssey but fact is only thing what cyperpunk does is RPG in term is letting you choose to go thru front door or back door in side missions.

I remember dozens of missions which were "combat optional" and which gave you a slightly higher payout if you avoided combat.

For example.

So I am not sure whether you got your information from someone else (and have not actually played the game), or whether you had played it but didn't notice things.

[woodenbox]

Rdr2 is better rph