I think the 2018 demo is a scam

[Beep Boop]

i would put all my points but i cant be bothered to so basically the rpg mega story lines, decision that matter etc.

who else feels the same?

[R3m0ved]

You mean this now notorious gameplay reveal ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjH48Xs-5OA

Ofc it was, take a look :

https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2018-showcase-fake/#:~:text=An%20investigative%20report%20has%20claimed,at%20E3%202018%20was%20fake.&text=It%20appears%20CD%20Projekt%20Red,t%20in%20the%20final%20game.

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/cd-projekt-red-responds-cyberpunk-2077-fake-e3-2018-demo-2858774

Typical PR horsesh*t response muh that's normal, watermark, all games do the same
Truth is, months of wasted resources on this

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/cyberpunk-2077-developers-knew-extent-of-issues-were-before-launch-says-new-report-2858026

[Beep Boop]

Originally posted by R3m0ved:

You mean this now notorious gameplay reveal ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjH48Xs-5OA

Ofc it was, take a look :

https://www.thegamer.com/cyberpunk-2077-e3-2018-showcase-fake/#:~:text=An%20investigative%20report%20has%20claimed,at%20E3%202018%20was%20fake.&text=It%20appears%20CD%20Projekt%20Red,t%20in%20the%20final%20game.

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/cd-projekt-red-responds-cyberpunk-2077-fake-e3-2018-demo-2858774

Typical PR horsesh*t response muh that's normal, watermark, all games do the same
Truth is, months of wasted resources on this

https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/cyberpunk-2077-developers-knew-extent-of-issues-were-before-launch-says-new-report-2858026

YES that covers it i already know if this story about the demo being fake and how bizarre it is to make a fake game play/ game why not show the game its a complete mind melt

[Beep Boop]

i also think they need to remove the video of YT tbh

[monsterSSJ3]

dang, you guys still on this

[Robert10203]

This is a technical demo of the gampelay. Did you heard the disclaimer at 0:30?
The verison of the game they wanted to make in 2018.

Do you know how games are developed? Who would make fully functional system just for a demo? Why would you even need a demo when you already spent so much time on developing mechanics? How it is a scam?

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by ♥Bloodsplatblade♥:

i would put all my points but i cant be bothered to so basically the rpg mega story lines, decision that matter etc.

So you want to make a point but can't be bothered to actually make your point? Heck, what does "RPG mega story lines" even mean? And I can't speak for you, but my gameplay included plenty of decisions that mattered, so that couldn't possibly be part of a "scam".

Here's a post from someone who put a lot more effort into this subject than you have:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/3110269213839024628/?ctp=21#c3110269213853737264
In this post, Aikido looks not only at features from the 2018 demo but at ALL the marketing material and analytically breaks down what can honestly be considered "broken promises".

[Beep Boop]

Originally posted by Robert10203:

This is a technical demo of the gampelay. Did you heard the disclaimer at 0:30?
The verison of the game they wanted to make in 2018.

Do you know how games are developed? Who would make fully functional system just for a demo? Why would you even need a demo when you already spent so much time on developing mechanics? How it is a scam?

does not matter its a scam the title is called "game play"

[Beep Boop]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by ♥Bloodsplatblade♥:

i would put all my points but i cant be bothered to so basically the rpg mega story lines, decision that matter etc.

So you want to make a point but can't be bothered to actually make your point? Heck, what does "RPG mega story lines" even mean? And I can't speak for you, but my gameplay included plenty of decisions that mattered, so that couldn't possibly be part of a "scam".

Here's a post from someone who put a lot more effort into this subject than you have:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/3110269213839024628/?ctp=21#c3110269213853737264
In this post, Aikido looks not only at features from the 2018 demo but at ALL the marketing material and analytically breaks down what can honestly be considered "broken promises".

seems like your a bit triggered anyhoo its still a scam regardless

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by ♥Bloodsplatblade♥:

does not matter its a scam the title is called "game play"

Yes, as in "This is what we envision the game play will be like." You know, as opposed to cinematic trailers or teaser trailers that try to generate interest in the game without showing what it will play like. It doesn't necessarily mean "This is what we completed and is fully playable". You'd be wise to remember this.

Originally posted by ♥Bloodsplatblade♥:

seems like your a bit triggered anyhoo its still a scam regardless

You are mistaken.

[Northwold]

I'm sorry but this is plain daft.

Games can't be played while in development. The systems aren't ready yet. So developers either create so-called "slices" for reveals at, for example, E3 -- so they work for months and months to make a tiny section of the game actually playable by doing all the systems necessary for that tiny section to work (which they may have to change again afterwards when they get to the final shape of the game) -- or they do a mockup with a big disclaimer on it.

This is not new and Cyberpunk must be the first time I've seen people whining about it like this. "What? You mean when they said things could change they meant things could change?" It is *so* not new that Bethesda produced an entire behind the scenes video way back when they were doing Oblivion -- which came out in 2006 -- dedicated to just how much work went into producing a tiny sequence for E3 that is barely relevant to the game and features gameplay that only exists during that sequence in Oblivion (it's the comedy bit where a woman accidentally sets herself on fire).

If the 2018 Cyberpunk video showed the final footage, the game would have been released in 2018. It's not rocket science or some shock revelation. Moreover, the rescue mission is recognisably in the game and unfolds in a manner extremely close to what is in that video anyway.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by Northwold:

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Hear hear!

[Northwold]

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by Northwold:

*snip*

Hear hear!

Won't stop this topic coming up again a hundred times, though!! :-D

[DaylightDemon]

absolutely wild theory my dude. like i bet nobody ever has thought of that before.

[Crom]

I do not feel the same.

This is reality without feeling. It was scam. It had all ingredience of what a scam is, It does efect which scam can do. Reaction of CD project is reaction of people who do scam.

So yes, it is scam.

[Tanoomba]

Originally posted by zangori:

It was scam. It had all ingredience of what a scam is, It does efect which scam can do. Reaction of CD project is reaction of people who do scam.

You are mistaken.