Cyberpunk 2077 feels weird to me, maybe a bit "cartoonish" and less serious to me compared to Deus Ex (Human Revolution / Mankind divided).

[The Grin]

I still haven´t finished the game because I actually struggle to finish it.
I am not really into it even tho I arrived at Act 2.
Before playing CyberPunk 2077, I replayed Deux Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided and felt a much darker, oppresive atmosphere in these games, making you feel you are not in a " Society" you really want to be as evolved as it is. Each of your action had immediate consequences that you would sooner or later regret.

Strangely, Cyberpunk feels like a " teenage trip " through a city, with metal or rock music on, shooting whatever can be shot, running away or going from a point to another.

The Art direction is exceptionnal of course and the detailled world is comendable but there is something in the gameplay that makes me feel I am just playing like a railway shooter passing from a mission to another without really knowing wether it was impactful or not.

The game is good but for a "Cyberpunk universe" game I don´t think it can be considered to be the best one and certainly not a revolutionnary one.

PS: I must say I was quite amused by the PeePee censorship.....or the "Ken syndrom".

[Max]

It is as it should be, you don't have to like it.

[Oparator Stalker]

Publicado originalmente por gimalaji_blake:

Cyberpunk atmoshpere is not just about shooting gangs in nice shiny city for eddies.
If any of you watched the original Blade Runner its about small and psychological things,there are not that many shootouts there even,its all about psychological small scenes,overall noir atmosphere and personal tragedy.
Like the "Tears in rain" monologue by Rutger Hauers character,
https://youtu.be/NoAzpa1x7jU

Or even the very first scene where they are using the scanning device to identify replicants,
https://youtu.be/P1jXmJmmj3o

and the overall aesthetics:
https://youtu.be/ptKGSp4YpUs
Over the course of the film,you are told that there was an uprising,but you are never shown the actual uprising.

That's what makes cyberpunk genre atmosphere overall so special,not a "looter/shooter" get that gear from a gang/clear that outpost/earn them eddies sandbox game play.
And that atmosphere is missing from most of this game unfortunately.

I own both DVD, love them. I will cook up some popcorn and watch them back to back!

[talemore]

I want more life

[Oparator Stalker]

Publicado originalmente por |Wilb|:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHjwVAJz0kg

<3

I am the man, who holds the keys, I sow the seeds, and I've got what you need, I live in fire, I am discord, I destroy, I am a demon, Weight of the world, the price of a fighter, Where I decide you'll make your stand, Rise of resist and disorder, Rise of resist and disorder, Nowhere to run, it's all undone, Everything burns, everything burns, I'll watch you fall down, I'll drag your face down, Everything burns, everything burns, Behind the veil, is the machine, It steals your soul, devouring all your dreams, My hand is firm, upon the wheel, I control, I am the demon, Hate for the world, the birth of a soldier, When I decide if you live or die, Rise of resist and disorder, Rise of resist and disorder, Nowhere to run, it's all undone, Everything burns, everything burns, I'll watch you fall down, I'll drag your face down, Everything burns, everything burns

[Oparator Stalker]

Publicado originalmente por talemore:

I want more life

Sorry, they made you as the best they could....

[talemore]

Publicado originalmente por warcatt00:

Publicado originalmente por talemore:

I want more life

Sorry, they made you as the best they could....

I am hollow, have no heart. Heartless and cold. Like a popsicle in snow.

[talemore]

Time to blow

[SkunkWerks]

Publicado originalmente por Doctor Jonathan Reed:

I still haven´t finished the game because I actually struggle to finish it.
I am not really into it even tho I arrived at Act 2.
Before playing CyberPunk 2077, I replayed Deux Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided and felt a much darker, oppresive atmosphere in these games, making you feel you are not in a " Society" you really want to be as evolved as it is. Each of your action had immediate consequences that you would sooner or later regret.

Strangely, Cyberpunk feels like a " teenage trip " through a city, with metal or rock music on, shooting whatever can be shot, running away or going from a point to another.

The Art direction is exceptionnal of course and the detailled world is comendable but there is something in the gameplay that makes me feel I am just playing like a railway shooter passing from a mission to another without really knowing wether it was impactful or not.

The game is good but for a "Cyberpunk universe" game I don´t think it can be considered to be the best one and certainly not a revolutionnary one.

PS: I must say I was quite amused by the PeePee censorship.....or the "Ken syndrom".

Been a fan of cyberpunk for... I dunno, better part of 35 years.

Game felt fine to me-very well constructed- from an atmospheric/story perspective.

But, you know, everyone has their preferences, I suppose.

[Oparator Stalker]

Publicado originalmente por talemore:

Publicado originalmente por warcatt00:

Sorry, they made you as the best they could....

I am hollow, have no heart. Heartless and cold. Like a popsicle in snow.

lol!

[n0mad23]

Publicado originalmente por SkunkWerks:

Publicado originalmente por Doctor Jonathan Reed:

I still haven´t finished the game because I actually struggle to finish it.
I am not really into it even tho I arrived at Act 2.
Before playing CyberPunk 2077, I replayed Deux Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided and felt a much darker, oppresive atmosphere in these games, making you feel you are not in a " Society" you really want to be as evolved as it is. Each of your action had immediate consequences that you would sooner or later regret.

Strangely, Cyberpunk feels like a " teenage trip " through a city, with metal or rock music on, shooting whatever can be shot, running away or going from a point to another.

The Art direction is exceptionnal of course and the detailled world is comendable but there is something in the gameplay that makes me feel I am just playing like a railway shooter passing from a mission to another without really knowing wether it was impactful or not.

The game is good but for a "Cyberpunk universe" game I don´t think it can be considered to be the best one and certainly not a revolutionnary one.

PS: I must say I was quite amused by the PeePee censorship.....or the "Ken syndrom".

Been a fan of cyberpunk for... I dunno, better part of 35 years.

Game felt fine to me-very well constructed- from an atmospheric/story perspective.

But, you know, everyone has their preferences, I suppose.

That's how I've been feeling about it, too. Honestly had a blast playing "spot the trope and author" of my favorite 1980's cyberpunk novels as I've played this game.

[SkunkWerks]

Publicado originalmente por n0mad23:

Publicado originalmente por SkunkWerks:

Been a fan of cyberpunk for... I dunno, better part of 35 years.

Game felt fine to me-very well constructed- from an atmospheric/story perspective.

But, you know, everyone has their preferences, I suppose.

That's how I've been feeling about it, too. Honestly had a blast playing "spot the trope and author" of my favorite 1980's cyberpunk novels as I've played this game.

Yeah, the nods to the genre did feel very satisfying (those I found anyway). Like the devs were studied.

[The Last Unicorn]

Publicado originalmente por Doctor Jonathan Reed:

I still haven´t finished the game because I actually struggle to finish it.
I am not really into it even tho I arrived at Act 2.
Before playing CyberPunk 2077, I replayed Deux Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided and felt a much darker, oppresive atmosphere in these games, making you feel you are not in a " Society" you really want to be as evolved as it is. Each of your action had immediate consequences that you would sooner or later regret.

Strangely, Cyberpunk feels like a " teenage trip " through a city, with metal or rock music on, shooting whatever can be shot, running away or going from a point to another.

The Art direction is exceptionnal of course and the detailled world is comendable but there is something in the gameplay that makes me feel I am just playing like a railway shooter passing from a mission to another without really knowing wether it was impactful or not.

The game is good but for a "Cyberpunk universe" game I don´t think it can be considered to be the best one and certainly not a revolutionnary one.

PS: I must say I was quite amused by the PeePee censorship.....or the "Ken syndrom".

I feel opposite I seen some cyberpunk movies and games, and I am happy to finally see some fresh take on the idea, without gloomy atmosphere but rather in a realistic'ish veiw of non the less dark future. It feels like a drama with sugarcoaed graphics which in a way is actually what cyberpunks base idea is. I think its brilliant.

[silentgameplays]

Publicado originalmente por warcatt00:

I own both DVD, love them. I will cook up some popcorn and watch them back to back!

Equilibrium (2001) is another good take on cyberpunk genre,but more from a perspective of dystopian society where they hunted offenders who experienced human emotions.It has action in it,but that action serves a purpose and is just there for background of what is really going on.

https://youtu.be/aUKsQtSVid8

https://youtu.be/S-Z4fBiM3Jc

https://youtu.be/wDM4rFivqlI

And yes if you want action in closed quarters Judge Dredd (2012).
https://youtu.be/IQJH-zUYOoc

Also the as much as Ghost in the Shell (2017) was a more of a miss compared to the original Chost in a Shell 1995 anime it has a lot of really great scenes like these ones. Like Takeshi
Kitanos character shootout:
https://youtu.be/TRS4tYeeouA

And even if you take Blade Runner 2049 which is more of an iphone among Blade Runners,despite the annoying Jared Lettos performance as main villain,a lot of scenes are pretty epic and atmospheric:
https://youtu.be/bbX5KM0tFVk

https://youtu.be/Oa9c9JBBGxM

https://youtu.be/9Sffdf9m2Ew

The most recent show after the first season of Altered Carbon, having a great take on futuristic society cyberpunk style, being The Expanse for me personally:

https://youtu.be/r_WQ1Jj7VKo

So initially this shows that you can combine action and dystopian take on society in a proper atmosphere if done right without going into the 80-s nostalgia with a touch of ACID Borderlands/RAGE graphics. Cyberpunk genre mostly all about atmosphere and noir settings with psychological emotions and character personalities and here is where the Cyberpunk 2077 game is a more of miss for me personally,falling more into the shiny Judge Dredd (1995) category,I just can't take it seriously in cyberpunk genre.

It does not mean Cyberpunk 2077 is a bad game,it just means that the futuristic dark dystopian cyberpunk genre themes in Cyberpunk 2077 are often undermined by shiny and almost cartoon-like atmosphere most of the time,without having an emphasis on how dark that dystopian society actually is,besides scripted scenes in the story mode and a couple of side-quests.

The prologue scene with bodies in bathtub is great though,Yorinobu Arosaka murdering his father in the hotel is awesome,Jackie's death scene is great,but when you go out into the city and badlands and do a few gigs etc,its like you are playing a completely different game.

https://youtu.be/0JnpynfwU70

[The Grin]

Publicado originalmente por gimalaji_blake:

Publicado originalmente por warcatt00:

I own both DVD, love them. I will cook up some popcorn and watch them back to back!

Equilibrium (2001) is another good take on cyberpunk genre,but more from a perspective of dystopian society where they hunted offenders who experienced human emotions.It has action in it,but that action serves a purpose and is just there for background of what is really going on.

https://youtu.be/aUKsQtSVid8

https://youtu.be/S-Z4fBiM3Jc

https://youtu.be/wDM4rFivqlI

And yes if you want action in closed quarters Judge Dredd (2012).
https://youtu.be/IQJH-zUYOoc

Also the as much as Ghost in the Shell (2017) was a more of a miss compared to the original Chost in a Shell 1995 anime it has a lot of really great scenes like these ones. Like Takeshi
Kitanos character shootout:
https://youtu.be/TRS4tYeeouA

And even if you take Blade Runner 2049 which is more of an iphone among Blade Runners,despite the annoying Jared Lettos performance as main villain,a lot of scenes are pretty epic and atmospheric:
https://youtu.be/bbX5KM0tFVk

https://youtu.be/Oa9c9JBBGxM

https://youtu.be/9Sffdf9m2Ew

The most recent show after the first season of Altered Carbon, having a great take on futuristic society cyberpunk style, being The Expanse for me personally:

https://youtu.be/r_WQ1Jj7VKo

So initially this shows that you can combine action and dystopian take on society in a proper atmosphere if done right without going into the 80-s nostalgia with a touch of ACID Borderlands/RAGE graphics. Cyberpunk genre mostly all about atmosphere and noir settings with psychological emotions and character personalities and here is where the Cyberpunk 2077 game is a more of miss for me personally,falling more into the shiny Judge Dredd (1995) category,I just can't take it seriously in cyberpunk genre. It does not mean Cyberpunk 2077 is a bad game,it just means that the futuristic dark dystopian cyberpunk genre themes in Cyberpunk 2077 are undermined by shiny and almost cartoon-like atmosphere most of the time,without having an emphasis on how dark that dystopian society actually is,besides scripted scenes in the story mode and a couple of side-quests. The prologue scene with bodies in bathtub is great though,Yorinobu Arosaka murdering his father in the hotel is awesome,Jackies death scene is great,but when you go out into the city and badlands and do a few gigs etc,its like you are playing a completely different game.

https://youtu.be/0JnpynfwU70

[ Those Movies are indeed excellent, especially Equilibrium which, in my opinion has been totally eclipsed by the public. Everyone knowing Christian Bale remembers Batman but who does remember " EQUILIBRIUM" ? Well....]

Like you said, this dark dystopian and futuristic genre in Cyberpunk´s beginning of the game is unfortunately and slowly fading with the progressive introduction into an action movie ACT1 before arriving to a sort of " sunny" Fallout / Rage / Mad Max styled Act 2 .

There is this lack of emphasis on that Dark Corpo Cyber society that began very well and opens up to a " Bikini, Sun ,Cyber Desert, Hot Chicks and Cars" Chapter that is original, even plausible but may not fit to everyone.

(In the movie Judge Dredd, Dredd goes out of Mega city and is Captured in the Desert by Cannibals but it is more a parenthesis than anything else...where in Cyberpunk it´s a big chunk of the game)

[xnamxoutlawx]

Watch Dogs 2, Rage 2, Far Cry New Dawn...

Sums it all up to me, the hip and edgy "millennials" style you know? Almost like it tries too hard, hell just listen to the dialogue.