People who cheat achievements: why?

[Orion Invictus]

No judgement here, but I'm curious about the reasoning. I've seen a few friends of mine have cheated some of their achievements (they unlocked multiple achievements simultaneously that cannot be unlocked in that manner) and I'm betting some people on this forum have also cheated them. So, why do it?

I can kinda understand people who try to unlock all achievements because they provide goals that those players would otherwise not have set, or they feel that they didn't "really" complete the game until they acquired all the achievements, but why cheat the achievements?
If you care about achievements, you just try to get them. If you don't (like me), you ignore them. Why "get" them in this manner?

[Beer]

Wth the bull do you care? They want - they cheat

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Beer:

Wth the bull do you care? They want - they cheat

Because I'm curious. I said so in the first sentence, didn't you read it?

[fiese Fee™]

Whats an achievement and why do i need it?

[Jerry]

Obviously it's so their argument on why the game sucks is valid through achievements gained or hours played. You see it from time to time.

[VeiL]

Games played in offline mode, then the person puts Steam in online mode and launches said game unlocks multiple achievements at the same time.
It does not always mean they have cheated to obtain them.

[vz]

it's like asking why people cheat in general, you don't know, I don't know, nobody knows

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by vizzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu:

it's like asking why people cheat in general, you don't know, I don't know, nobody knows

Not even the cheaters.

[Hellsmoke]

I don't get it either but then I put no value on them tbh. All the achievements I have are natural meaning I probably don't even know I have them.

[Braveheart]

The thrill of the hunt does not satisfy them

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Originally posted by vizzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu:

it's like asking why people cheat in general, you don't know, I don't know, nobody knows

Not even the cheaters.

I've cheated in single-player games and know why I do it - to ♥♥♥♥ around. I'm asking for the input from people who cheat achievements specifically, not for those who don't to speculate on why they do.

[AceInYourHole]

I've bought games on steam that i already owned on other platforms and when save is loaded all the achievements unlock automatically, it not always cheating.

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by zacharyb:

Not even the cheaters.

I've cheated in single-player games and know why I do it - to ♥♥♥♥ around. I'm asking for the input from people who cheat achievements specifically, not for those who don't to speculate on why they do.

It was a joke.

And I'd imagine there are probably a few people who have OCD and need to have perfect/100% achievements for games otherwise it'll bother the hell out of them.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by AceInYourHole:

I've bought games on steam that i already owned on other platforms and when save is loaded all the achievements unlock automatically, it not always cheating.

It only happened with a few achievements, though. I think Jaymo was right on the money with the offline thing.

[Cat®]

I mean we can all view the explicit emotional motivations, unfilled bars, sense of completion, perceived social value, etc. But in the end it's because the kind of person who does not cheat, and the person who does cheat, are fundamentally different people. They have a completely different value-set.

I am reminded of an interview with a CS:GO cheater, who was asked why he used an aimbot on multiple accounts, a new one as the previous got banned. And his explanation was that because he 'enjoyed being the best', but when asked about the obvious issue that he was not the best, he was simply using a tool that gave him an unfair advantage, he didn't even perceive as such. The scoreboard said he was the best, so he was. All other factors were irrelevant.

Most people are unlikely to agree with that person in that situation, and if you don't I don't think you can conceivably bridge that gap of understanding. It's like understanding alcoholism: You can understand that something drives someone to drink, you can understand addiction first-hand or second-hand, you can understand the chemical reactions that lead to it; but whatever internal logic is in operation will remain entirely opaque to you if it is happening to someone else.

I have at times felt a strong urge to chase achievements, even to the point of it obviously being unpleasant or not worth it, sometimes with cheats. Most of the time I don't, and I honestly couldn't tell you what was different about those experiences. I am not someone who puts any value in them, though I still feel compelled to get them, it is purely for my own sake. The idea of bragging about it or treating it as a valuable thing is alien to me. There might not even be any rhyme or reason to it in the first place.

[Bottom of the Well]

Sometimes they bug out and dont trigger. Other times they can earn them offline and when coming online they all pop. But yeah Steam Achievement manger comes in handy for broken achivments.