Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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Kizuna Dragon 3 ENE 2021 a las 11:49 a. m.
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Claire (minor Spoilers)
Out of all the things this game gets wrong they absolutely nailed it with Claire.

She was strong, she was vulnerable. She opened up to V about her past. They humanized her and made her a believable person all the while respecting her as a trans woman.

She tells V she met her husband after her gender transition and she has the trans flag on the back of beast. that was it. Simple and respectful. it wasn't the end all be all of her characters identity.

kudos to CDPR for writing a trans character while not shoving it in our faces or trying to make some statement about it.

screw Judy and Panam, i wish we could have romanced Claire.
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pumkin1988 4 ENE 2021 a las 8:05 p. m. 
-Claire was a waste. I honestly enjoyed the character til the end with the whole 360 spin and now BAM he wants us to kill some guy who died in a literal death race. As others have stated it would have been fine if that was the contract but all the flirty texts & hints made that B so deceptive. Totally uncalled for.

-I also find it funny that people who feel Claire wouldn't be a good romance option due to deceased spouse are funny. That's literally Judy. Also River is in the same boat. But they are romance options.

I honestly wanted to kill Claire at the very end. Maybe that will get her to see her husband a lot quicker.

-This isn't related to Claire but I did somewhat enjoy the race quests. Thought they were neat but I was rather expecting race/car quests to be more Delamin's thing. I thought he was going to give us a taxi and then we would have taxi questlines. Big wasted potential imo
shado 5 ENE 2021 a las 2:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por MachinePlayer:
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90% of statistics are made up. 69%
Mansen 5 ENE 2021 a las 2:51 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ℛaveÐƵ:
Had cars blowing up behind me, but okay.

And we're back to intent versus circumstance.
Gnat 29 SEP 2023 a las 7:31 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por caev79:
It's funny to me how Claire literally only mentions transitioning once (briefly, too) and apparently it's triggering enough for transphobes.

The only other reference to her being trans is the trans flag sticker on the back of her truck.
for real, but transphobes get mad at the English language as well (pronouns) so its not surprising
Jocko 2 OCT 2023 a las 3:24 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por VOID:
Publicado originalmente por caev79:
It's funny to me how Claire literally only mentions transitioning once (briefly, too) and apparently it's triggering enough for transphobes.

The only other reference to her being trans is the trans flag sticker on the back of her truck.
for real, but transphobes get mad at the English language as well (pronouns) so its not surprising

They get mad at people denying reality, and trying to force others to follow along.
adema066 9 OCT 2023 a las 4:12 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jocko:
Publicado originalmente por VOID:
for real, but transphobes get mad at the English language as well (pronouns) so its not surprising

They get mad at people denying reality, and trying to force others to follow along.

This 1000%
Full Snack Developer 9 OCT 2023 a las 7:06 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Valkez:
You know, I actually liked Claire...

...until the ♥♥♥♥♥ lied to me about the other participant of the race and made me miss a 75k€$ car that is infinitely better than her sh*tass truck.

That said, she's a well done character.

She's a great character.
That said, I did the quest, convinced her not to kill Sampson, and got both cars, which makes her an even better character because she showed sense, compassion, and growth, all things in short supply in NC.
Okihara Jones 9 OCT 2023 a las 7:15 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Snackille O'Meal 🌻:
Publicado originalmente por Valkez:
You know, I actually liked Claire...

...until the ♥♥♥♥♥ lied to me about the other participant of the race and made me miss a 75k€$ car that is infinitely better than her sh*tass truck.

That said, she's a well done character.

She's a great character.
That said, I did the quest, convinced her not to kill Sampson, and got both cars, which makes her an even better character because she showed sense, compassion, and growth, all things in short supply in NC.
Wait wait wait wait now just HOLD ON partner are you telling it's possible to get Claire to NOT kill Sampson??? wuuuuuuuuuuttttttt
Full Snack Developer 9 OCT 2023 a las 7:21 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Okihara Jones:
Publicado originalmente por Snackille O'Meal 🌻:

She's a great character.
That said, I did the quest, convinced her not to kill Sampson, and got both cars, which makes her an even better character because she showed sense, compassion, and growth, all things in short supply in NC.
Wait wait wait wait now just HOLD ON partner are you telling it's possible to get Claire to NOT kill Sampson??? wuuuuuuuuuuttttttt

Yep, AND she's still friendly with my V. I'm pretty sure it's tied to some dialogue options, the first of which happens after the 3rd race (when she's telling you her story). I chose the "My priority is winning" choice cause I wanted to race but I didn't want to agree to kill the man outright, and it seemed to fit in with the way I have been playing the character. Then when you follow Sampson off the road, there is a choice to say something like, "Let him go" I think it was. I'm not sure if it was the combination of those two choices that did it or something else, but it seemed like it and that's how my quest ended.
Hidden Gunman 9 OCT 2023 a las 8:38 p. m. 
Not sure I'd want cuthulu after the race. Sure, shiny new panel jobs its a sweet look, but the guts has been flogged out of it.
18 JUL 2024 a las 1:29 p. m. 
Claire is a terrible person
Maviba 18 JUL 2024 a las 4:43 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Tsunero:
maybe it's just me but all the lgtb stuff in the game felt forcefully crammed in to me and was very out of place, hated this questline because of it
You don't know much about cyberpunk, right?
That genre has been existing for more than 30 years now, and that gender thingi was already a thing there back in days.
It's nothing special for cyberpunk since its considered to be normal in that future.
Coffee Addict 18 JUL 2024 a las 5:27 p. m. 
necro post and all that but i still feel the need to post this

Publicado originalmente por Kizuna Dragon:
screw Judy and Panam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9F7HVOs-Ug
Pyromaiden 18 JUL 2024 a las 7:06 p. m. 
I try not to contribute to threads that are practically ancient and were revived only by necromantic sorcery but speaking as a transwoman I'm okay with Claire.

Her quests are kinda mid as all the races are easy to win by just hacking the other cars to get them to emergency break - they get stuck and can't start up again so you can just blow past them. It's kinda funny actually.

Her character is decent. Her motivations are believable and while her dishonesty was troubling I get that she was going through ♥♥♥♥ and wasn't willing to open up about it all right away. Not gonna hold it against her for being a wreck when her hubby was literally murdered doing what he loved and she had to watch helplessly as it happened.

The corpo? ♥♥♥♥ him. He made an explicit, deliberate choice to kill. He didn't need to. Nobody told him to, nobody encouraged him to, he just decided to do it. Just because he wouldn't be penalized for it doesn't mean it's okay. ♥♥♥♥♥♥ deserved a bullet for being a scumbag corpo murderer. Bro had zero remorse for what he did and actually tried to blame his victim. Scum-sucking coward hiding behind suits. Executed in the streets like a dog, crying and pissing himself was exactly what he deserved. Piece of ♥♥♥♥. I am pro-revenge. Totally underrated and love it when games don't force me to forgive unrepentant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who do vile things for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reasons. I have zero interest in that kind of self-righteous haughty moralizing holier-than-thou crap about being a "better person" and not "stooping to their level" or whatever.

Anyway, for Claire being trans I feel like the flag on the truck was all they really needed tbh. The line about transitioning wasn't necessary and felt unnatural - there was no reason to bring up her transition. The flag alone said all it needed to about the matter and when it comes to writing trans characters unless their transition is explicitly part of the plot (which it wasn't in this particular case) then the less you say about it the better. It feels more natural and organic that way. Speaking from experience: most trans people don't just start off-hand mention that they're trans when it's not relevant or necessary to do so. It's actually safer for us - especially those that pass - to say as little as possible on the matter unless the subject itself is unavoidable for some reason. But as far as being a trans-written character in a game Claire is a better example than a lot of others I can think of which tend to go out of their way to tell you they're trans, perfectly fit into offensive stereotypes, or just have no personality at all besides "trans".

Finally: I will not tolerate any disrespect of Judy. She is bae. :judy:
Hidden Gunman 18 JUL 2024 a las 8:58 p. m. 
People can end up dead because of her, or she cracks a sooky. She needs a couple of days out on the streets with V to get a grasp of reality before she decides to play in the big kids games.
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