Cyberpunk 2077

Cyberpunk 2077

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If V fears death why is he a mercenary?
For someone who fears death he sure likes to tickle the bony sack of death constantly
with each gig he accepts

Should have just been working for Mama Welles at the bar instead :steamfacepalm:
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Messaggio originale di SuperFly:
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
Yes but in the story he shows no fear for all his merc jobs but when it comes to chip he just goes emotional i don't get it if he fears no death during merc jobs he shouldn't fear the chip either

You obviously don't get it, OP -- but that's not a failing in the story or character's presentation.
If the audience can't empathize with anxieties about mortality -- or conceptualize the difference between a character's risky profession & their contracting a deadly disease -- then the material is just lost on them.

With time -- and through general tragic life experience -- that audience might grow, and eventually understand the material they are consuming.
No bad writting is just bad writting no sugar coating it
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
No bad writting is just bad writting no sugar coating it
no, wrong again.

if the fear of death was the only thing keeping people from being criminals, then there would be no criminals in the world. being a criminal is a high risk, high reward job. i'm sure al capone was afraid of death too but he still killed and robbed people because he wanted more and more money.
Ultima modifica da space; 2 gen 2021, ore 8:08
Messaggio originale di Darkie:
In the end nothing matters anyway, so it indeed makes no sense to be scared, not even if the situation V gets in is "horrific" from the avarage persons perspective, but really.. I mean....
Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness and dies by chance

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2345716960
And yet you are here writing comments just like the rest of us when you could also jump out of the window to end your existence ;) Maybe you like living too? ;)
Messaggio originale di Sigh:
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
No bad writting is just bad writting no sugar coating it
no, wrong again.

if the fear of death was the only thing keeping people from being criminals, then there would be no criminals in the world. being a criminal is a high risk, high reward job. i'm sure al capone was afraid of death too but he still killed and robbed people because he wanted more and more money.

No

What keeps "most" people from being criminals and breaking the law is the false security the social contract gives people. That is why you accept to restrain your freedom so much, because you think it will in return give you "safety"

Personally I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery. but maybe I have just had Johnny talk to me abit too much.... :evelyn2077:
Messaggio originale di Sigh:
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
No bad writting is just bad writting no sugar coating it
no, wrong again.

if the fear of death was the only thing keeping people from being criminals, then there would be no criminals in the world. being a criminal is a high risk, high reward job. i'm sure al capone was afraid of death too but he still killed and robbed people because he wanted more and more money.
Wrong again yourself V single small timer fighting big fights against big time big gangs
if you cannot fear that you shouldn't fear death by chip it self because the work he is doing will eventually get him killed like jackie he died a nobody with no fear
Because he doesn't think hes actually going to die when he do the merc work its the kind of mindset that "it can happen to anyone but me" and the Chip is like a terminal disease he can't beat by replacing his limbs at a doc.
Messaggio originale di lamacra:
Messaggio originale di Darkie:
In the end nothing matters anyway, so it indeed makes no sense to be scared, not even if the situation V gets in is "horrific" from the avarage persons perspective, but really.. I mean....
Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness and dies by chance

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2345716960
And yet you are here writing comments just like the rest of us when you could also jump out of the window to end your existence ;) Maybe you like living too? ;)

That is because
My thought is me: that's why I can't stop. I exist because I think… and I can't stop myself from thinking. At this very moment - it's frightful - if I exist, it is because I am horrified at existing. I am the one who pulls myself from the nothingness to which I aspire.

Too much Sartre?
Messaggio originale di Darkie:
What keeps "most" people from being criminals and breaking the law is the false security the social contract gives people. That is why you accept to restrain your freedom so much, because you think it will in return give you "safety"

Personally I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery. but maybe I have just had Johnny talk to me abit too much.... :evelyn2077:
eh, that's a topic for a different conversation.
Ultima modifica da space; 2 gen 2021, ore 8:13
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
Messaggio originale di Sigh:
no, wrong again.

if the fear of death was the only thing keeping people from being criminals, then there would be no criminals in the world. being a criminal is a high risk, high reward job. i'm sure al capone was afraid of death too but he still killed and robbed people because he wanted more and more money.
Wrong again yourself V single small timer fighting big fights against big time big gangs
if you cannot fear that you shouldn't fear death by chip it self because the work he is doing will eventually get him killed like jackie he died a nobody with no fear
no.

it doesn't mean he wasn't afraid of dying, but at the point he realized he's not gonna make it, he accepted it.
Messaggio originale di ༺⚜️G92⚜️༻:
Because he doesn't think hes actually going to die when he do the merc work its the kind of mindset that "it can happen to anyone but me" and the Chip is like a terminal disease he can't beat by replacing his limbs at a doc.
right.
Ultima modifica da space; 2 gen 2021, ore 8:12
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
For someone who fears death he sure likes to tickle the bony sack of death constantly
with each gig he accepts

Should have just been working for Mama Welles at the bar instead :steamfacepalm:
technicaly he doesn't fear death in one of the ending and do one of the biggest job to try to save himself because like he said he as nothing to loose
Ultima modifica da Commander Hitman2b; 2 gen 2021, ore 8:13
Messaggio originale di Sigh:
Messaggio originale di Darkie:

No

What keeps "most" people from being criminals and breaking the law is the false security the social contract gives people. That is why you accept to restrain your freedom so much, because you think it will in return give you "safety"

Personally I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery. but maybe I have just had Johnny talk to me abit too much.... :evelyn2077:
eh, that's a topic for a different conversation.

Actually it was a direct counter to your post and it even aligns perfectly well with some of the themes we see in Cyberpunk 2077... it is just... most people don´t dig deep enough into the layers and lore of the game, they just shoot stuff....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlyqizEdlw

This arc in the second season of Farscape took a character who faced death every day and wanted to live- by the end of it- that chip that was slowly destroying everything he was had him want to die. Losing who you are is horrific- this scene for all the innuendo- this was John's torturer, the creature who would dissect his brain or leave him a mindless puppet at this point in the series, who would kill everyone he cared about like Gilina to get what he wanted, and there was a copy of him eroding everything that was John for the wormhole tech.

Crichton was losing his sense of self and he literally begs for death because of it. It's one of the most brutal arcs I've seen a character go through.
Messaggio originale di Darkie:
Actually it was a direct counter to your post and it even aligns perfectly well with some of the themes we see in Cyberpunk 2077... it is just... most people don´t dig deep enough into the layers and lore of the game, they just shoot stuff....
maybe you think everybody would just murder people if they could.

not everybody's a psychopath.
Ultima modifica da space; 2 gen 2021, ore 8:14
Messaggio originale di Darkie:
Messaggio originale di lamacra:
And yet you are here writing comments just like the rest of us when you could also jump out of the window to end your existence ;) Maybe you like living too? ;)

That is because
My thought is me: that's why I can't stop. I exist because I think… and I can't stop myself from thinking. At this very moment - it's frightful - if I exist, it is because I am horrified at existing. I am the one who pulls myself from the nothingness to which I aspire.

Too much Sartre?
Well as someone who has been in a situtation where i thought too myself well it ain´t looking good that i will make it, i enshure you that the fear of death was there and it was damn real.
And yes i wanted to live more than anything else in this moment.
Messaggio originale di H.honor:
For someone who fears death he sure likes to tickle the bony sack of death constantly
with each gig he accepts

Should have just been working for Mama Welles at the bar instead :steamfacepalm:

I can tell you don't know anyone with cancer. It's not about death itself - It's about HOW you die that he's terrified of.
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