Venus in Furs, Personal Problem

[Gerber Life Program]

In the side mission Venus in Furs you're FORCED to have sex with a character in the game. Normally this isn't a big deal for me but I wanted to be careful with how I approached sex in this game with my character. I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.I don't want to make my character into what CDPR wants, I want a choice to just take the weapon and leave. I don't even care if it's still a d***o.

Edit: I've posted several comments explaining further my side as to why I find this annoying.
I also have responded to several comments on the part of the post that mentions the non-lethal dmg killing. Please look at my responses before commenting since I may have gone over and answered something already. Please and Thank you.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Zzznoopy:

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

I have that on and people still die left and right for me. I think it's something with the rag doll physics. If they don't fall straight onto their backs they explode into blood and instantly die. Maybe its something with my save or something, but its a problem I've had for a week or so now.

Huh that's a shame then. The only time I kill an enemy is when I accidentally trigger a nearby explosive on the already knocked out person or if I keep on shooting or swinging when they're already knocked out.

The weirdest part is on the first 3-4 days after launch. This wasn't an issue. A few hours before 1.04 though it started happening. I waited for the patch to see if it would help at all, but it just kept happening. I eventually decided to continue anyway just pretending I'm not killing everyone.

[Etheras]

I also found this quest highly distasteful. I wanted to go there and assassinate her, and I end up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ her??? WTF???!?!? GROSS. Makes me want to puke

[Simbolic]

Just close your eyes and spam the skip button

[Hellsmoke]

Publicado originalmente por Plague Doctor:

Publicado originalmente por Desponark:

The quest was clearly an invitation for sex... You don't have to do it if you don't want to... Why are you even complaining...

because he wants to be gay i guess or play a non sexual role

There's plenty of options in the game for the first, if it's the second on he's after he's playing the wrong game.

[🐾]

I though I had to do some gay sex with Kerry when that mission came up. I felt like throwing up at the thought. But I found out that you can avoid it through talking options.

[GammeDiamond]

Going through the research regarding non-lethal, it doesn't mean that everything will become non-lethal.
Apparently a SPRS-30 caliber to the noggin (with non-lethal module/mod, mind you) is considered a-ok, he/she is still breathing, but anything blunt to the head is still considered...lethal.
Understandable as a ♥♥♥♥-ing giant hammer swung to the face at that velocity would definitely kill, as reality ensues.
The ragdoll part when they're "unconscious" is somewhat of an issue. Sometimes they die, sometimes they don't. Sometimes their bodies explode once they're placed, and sometimes they're fine despite being on top on something/someone or leaning on objects.

For Venus in Furs, understandable. The completionist in me wants that iconic weapon, but at the same time, is it worth it to have your V get pegged harder than the bugs in the game? Depends. Me? Straight up ignored the mission all the way to Act 3. Probably in another playthrough though.

[Husker_85]

I somewhat understand OPs beef with the non-lethal thing. But what you describe: going loud but non-lethal all the time is less realistic than this game is trying to be. IRL, if you go into a building and use brute force to knock everyone out a decent portion of those people will die of complications. People have heart problems or other health issues that you might not know about, and sometimes people just get unlucky and suffer a brain aneurysm or fall wrong and split their noggin open. Being rendered unconscious by force is considered by most health professionals to be EXTREMELY dangerous.

[🐾]

Publicado originalmente por GammeDiamond:

Going through the research regarding non-lethal, it doesn't mean that everything will become non-lethal.
Apparently a SPRS-30 caliber to the noggin (with non-lethal module/mod, mind you) is considered a-ok, he/she is still breathing, but anything blunt to the head is still considered...lethal.
Understandable as a ♥♥♥♥-ing giant hammer swung to the face at that velocity would definitely kill, as reality ensues.
The ragdoll part when they're "unconscious" is somewhat of an issue. Sometimes they die, sometimes they don't. Sometimes their bodies explode once they're placed, and sometimes they're fine despite being on top on something/someone or leaning on objects.

For Venus in Furs, understandable. The completionist in me wants that iconic weapon, but at the same time, is it worth it to have your V get pegged harder than the bugs in the game? Depends. Me? Straight up ignored the mission all the way to Act 3. Probably in another playthrough though.

I use a 2 handed hammer and you will always get a non-lethal on the enemy if you are careful. If you do not hit the enemy more than you need to then it will be non lethal. But if you swing in 1 or more hits after the one that leaves the npc unconscious then the npc will die. So if the npc is on 1 % and you swing a normal hit, then it is non lethal...2 hits and he/she is dead.

[Aidenel]

just find a gun shop and get the "makes your gun non-lethal" mod.
I am running around with the equivalent of a .50 caliber sniper, headshotting people and they survive it somehow.
(on a side note, 80% of the enemies I use the suicide hack on don't die and just gets rendered unconcious, while it's a 50/50 split if an enemy dies from Overload even though it says its non-lethal).
edit: don't mind me I didn't read the edit, just a bunch of the latest comments.

[Julie Natalia E.]

Ridiculous, if you don't want a scene with sex, don't accept the invitation for this. Seriously, all these people thinking the ultra violence (something bad, in fact) in a game is ok but sex (something about love) is not.

[kick☁s]

lmao all he wants is the option to say no when he gets there.. idk what is so hard for people to understand or get upset about. The fact that you can't do anything about it at all other than fail the quest.. the quest gets given to you no matter how you respond to the text, there should be a text response to completely avoid the quest if not the ability to say no when you get there. You just get tunneled into the situation and end up with a "Failed" quest no matter how you proceed if you respond in any kind of way but don't want to have sex.

Sorry, I know this is old but the thread I've seen on the subject. I feel the same way. (Though I don't think you should get the dildo if you say no.. that could still remain a variable quest reward lol)

[Wisp Cat]

Hmm.. GLP stated that this was a personal problem (in the title of this thread). But I can't think of any way of getting the weapon without dealing with Meredith other than using a save file editor.

The lethal damage thing happens from hitting unconscious people ... but there might be other ways to make that happen, also?

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por kick☁s:

lmao all he wants is the option to say no when he gets there.. idk what is so hard for people to understand or get upset about. The fact that you can't do anything about it at all other than fail the quest.. the quest gets given to you no matter how you respond to the text, there should be a text response to completely avoid the quest if not the ability to say no when you get there. You just get tunneled into the situation and end up with a "Failed" quest no matter how you proceed if you respond in any kind of way but don't want to have sex.

Sorry, I know this is old but the thread I've seen on the subject. I feel the same way. (Though I don't think you should get the dildo if you say no.. that could still remain a variable quest reward lol)

Thank you! I got a surprising amount of flack for this and it's nice to see someone actually try to see it from my view! (Happily can say the majority of recent comments were ones like yours!) For the part on not getting the item, that would be totally fine too. The main problem was simply the scene and the fact I couldn't say no. I admit I talked a little to much about some other problems I had with the game in the main post though. I'm sure that's why so many people joined it to try and make fun of me or whatever. Did they reacting properly and like adults... hell no it's the internet, but I at least see why some of them acted the way they did. Then there was a ton of people who ignored the main meat of the post and just told me about gun dmg types. They were cool.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Wednesday Crisis:

Hmm.. GLP stated that this was a personal problem (in the title of this thread). But I can't think of any way of getting the weapon without dealing with Meredith other than using a save file editor.

The lethal damage thing happens from hitting unconscious people ... but there might be other ways to make that happen, also?

When it comes to the weapon, I didn't really care to much. I thought it would be really funny to have and if I could still have it I'd take it is all.

Also, I kept playing for a few more weeks and the problem solved itself weirdly. People would go into the unconscious animation every time I knocked them down. Even my lethal attacks! No joke! The dmg did a full 180 and decided to never kill another living soul again. They could fall 100ft or even get shot and have their head explode. I would turn around and they'd have all their bits and pieces back and laying on the floor. The only thing that stuck from the problem in the main post is that placing enemies still made them explode with blood unless from stealth takedowns.
(This was tested without the non lethal dmg mods of course.)

[Northwold]

I actually agree with the OP. I didn't take the original invitation as for an encounter (I mean, it's far from the only mission in the game in which you're told to come alone), went along with it and then wanted to tear my eyes from my body.

It wasn't violating it was more the witcher 3 feeling of "no, this is really gross and I didn't need to see that" that you get if you're not the target market for w3's brand of "romance" (aka bad porn).