Venus in Furs, Personal Problem

[Gerber Life Program]

In the side mission Venus in Furs you're FORCED to have sex with a character in the game. Normally this isn't a big deal for me but I wanted to be careful with how I approached sex in this game with my character. I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.I don't want to make my character into what CDPR wants, I want a choice to just take the weapon and leave. I don't even care if it's still a d***o.

Edit: I've posted several comments explaining further my side as to why I find this annoying.
I also have responded to several comments on the part of the post that mentions the non-lethal dmg killing. Please look at my responses before commenting since I may have gone over and answered something already. Please and Thank you.

[ValDeez]

I know how big of a shock this must be for you that CDPR didn't make the game just for your tastes...





Grow the f*** up Samurai.

[jrf773]

Of all the things that are wrong with the game, and this is what you choose to complain about... Seriously?

Self control is a thing. If you don't want something, don't do it. Pretty simple.

Also, stop being so easy to offend. This again is a choice.

But you can't control yourself, so you have to control others.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por WooDee:

only time i have killed with a Shock batton was after repeatedly hitting a downed foe. There is also a mod for you eyes that renders all attacks non lethal. and one for the guns too

I have the mod on my eyes and it doesn't help me. I use the gorilla arms and they send enemies into a rag doll if I use the power attack. Even with the mod on my eyes, if an enemy enters ragdoll and doesn't land flat on their back. (The default Idol animation for someone incapacitated.) Then they instantly die with a pool of blood forming and any animation stopping on them. It was a massive problem for me until I decided to ignore the problem and just move on. Since the game still sees knocked out people as dead people most the time I just went with it.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por jrf773:

Of all the things that are wrong with the game, and this is what you choose to complain about... Seriously?

Self control is a thing. If you don't want something, don't do it. Pretty simple.

Also, stop being so easy to offend. This again is a choice.

But you can't control yourself, so you have to control others.

You're literally telling me what I can and can't complain about in your comment. The problem I'm having is because I have self control and don't want to have the scene. I didn't want to do it so I was confused as to why I couldn't NOT do it without reloading a save from hours ago before I answered the text. I'm not easily offended at all, I just didn't want MY character to have sex since I didn't want them to in a CHOICE BASED rpg. I don't care if others are down to clown with this lady at all, they can plow the fields if they want. I even said "normally this isn't a bad thing for me," but that this time around I really didn't want it since I was trying to play a character.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por ValDeez:

I know how big of a shock this must be for you that CDPR didn't make the game just for your tastes...





Grow the f*** up Samurai.

There's options for this type of thing in other side quests. Yes, the game isn't made just for me. The other quests did have the option even with flirting and teasing however, so why is it not here? I'll admit I have plenty of growing up to do, but I do have a point in this situation. A choice driven rpg should have proper choices/options to roleplay in it.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

Publicado originalmente por Kleerex:

If you get a message from a woman that says "Come alone!" which is an invitation to a remote motel, and it doesn't ring any bells, then you're too young for this game. I knew how it is going to end the moment I received that message.

Granted, the way the old goat was dressed almost made me run away and hide. Even devs didn't want to do saggy tits and everything. I still proceeded and got what I came for. Hey, it's still sex, age isn't that important.

I don't appreciate the age comment since I'm above the age the game is made for. Also you may want to consider that some people in fact aren't well versed in those things for several reasons. I don't know why you had to come here and low key insult me then complain about the looks of a fake person. It's not like I'm exploding on twitter or something on this I just want an option to say no.

I just wan't to state, since I got off topic in the response, I just wanted an option to say no in this game that was said to be about options. I know I didn't catch it in the text, (since I didn't ready any of it lol.) but the option to leave should've been presented for players like me who don't want to have to read every text. I'm sorry I made such a hasty response to the comment that was focused more on defending myself than in trying to prove my point.

[Prophet]

Publicado originalmente por Desponark:

The quest was clearly an invitation for sex... You don't have to do it if you don't want to... Why are you even complaining...

he wants the dildo...

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Prophet of Sotek:

Publicado originalmente por Desponark:

The quest was clearly an invitation for sex... You don't have to do it if you don't want to... Why are you even complaining...

he wants the dildo...

SOMEONE FINALLY GETS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duck]

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.

that isnt true, there are plenty of non-lethal weapons and mods that make you deal non-lethal damage

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Duck:

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.

that isnt true, there are plenty of non-lethal weapons and mods that make you deal non-lethal damage

I'm pretty sure my save is bugged or something since no matter the mods I have or the weapons I use the game will auto kill someone if they enter a rag doll in my game. Unless they land flat on their back and enter the standard idol animation. (I.E. a stealth takedown.)

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Greywolf:

Publicado originalmente por venom:

You can have non-lethal weapons, it doesn't actually kill them, as the name implies.

There is also an eye implant mod that turns all damage non leathal

I know I have it installed it just hasn't worked for me. The save I'm using could be bugged since it's from day 1? Whenever someone enters rag doll if they don't lag flat on their back then they auto die on the spot. Some explode into a pool of blood, some just don't move and don't idol even when adjusted to be on their backs. It's not a massive problem since I'm still playing and enjoying the game but it did ruin my roleplay.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

Publicado originalmente por Greywolf:

There is also an eye implant mod that turns all damage non leathal

I know I have it installed it just hasn't worked for me. The save I'm using could be bugged since it's from day 1? Whenever someone enters rag doll if they don't lag flat on their back then they auto die on the spot. Some explode into a pool of blood, some just don't move and don't idol even when adjusted to be on their backs. It's not a massive problem since I'm still playing and enjoying the game but it did ruin my roleplay.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2320864588
I even have a screen shot of one of the times it happened.

[Bloodartist]

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

In the side mission Venus in Furs you're FORCED to have sex with a character in the game. Normally this isn't a big deal for me but I wanted to be careful with how I approached sex in this game with my character. I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.I don't want to make my character into what CDPR wants, I want a choice to just take the weapon and leave. I don't even care if it's still a d***o.

This is not a "mission". Its a mission reward of sorts. This exists solely to let you have sex with
stout

If you do the allfoods mission aka "pickup" in a certain way, you are be rewarded with this IF you also send Stout certain text message.


Its rather foolish to say that you are forced to have sex in a sex scene, and one that is only accessible if you jump through enough many hoops. Also, you can always just WALK AWAY from the dialog.

[Gerber Life Program]

Publicado originalmente por Bloodartist:

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

In the side mission Venus in Furs you're FORCED to have sex with a character in the game. Normally this isn't a big deal for me but I wanted to be careful with how I approached sex in this game with my character. I already had to drop my Batman esc. no kill rule since all damage kills no matter what.I don't want to make my character into what CDPR wants, I want a choice to just take the weapon and leave. I don't even care if it's still a d***o.

This is not a "mission". Its a mission reward of sorts. This exists solely to let you have sex with
stout

If you do the allfoods mission aka "pickup" in a certain way, you are be rewarded with this IF you also send Stout certain text message.


Its rather foolish to say that you are forced to have sex in a sex scene, and one that is only accessible if you jump through enough many hoops. Also, you can always just WALK AWAY from the dialog.

First, I tried to walk away and the door instantly locks the second you walk in.

Second, I didn't plan on having sex with her when I gave them the chip. I did what I thought was right and it holds no point in the actual point I'm trying to make.

Third, I was responding to 200+ texts of which several had reply's to. I didn't read it and responded the way my character would having just read the responses. Which would be to be nice to the person and try and make connections with people of power to have leverage in situations in the future. (Something that has worked with other characters.)

Fourth, If it's a mission reward than how come it gives you a side quest objective and even a waypoint all the way to her? How come it's separate from the quest that started it? How come it gives XP? Why does it have it's own reward for doing the quest and searching the area?

[Q404]

Publicado originalmente por Gerber Life Program:

Publicado originalmente por Zzznoopy:

There's literally a mod for your cybernetic implant that makes it so ALL your weapons do non-lethal damage

I have that on and people still die left and right for me. I think it's something with the rag doll physics. If they don't fall straight onto their backs they explode into blood and instantly die. Maybe its something with my save or something, but its a problem I've had for a week or so now.

Huh that's a shame then. The only time I kill an enemy is when I accidentally trigger a nearby explosive on the already knocked out person or if I keep on shooting or swinging when they're already knocked out.