Lifeless city? LIES! City feels dense and lively!

[AlternateKeK]

Just wanted to put a PSA out there that anyone claiming the city is dull and lifeless has obviously been lying because I was playing all day yesterday and here is my experience....

-Bumper to bumper traffic, just like real city traffic

-Tons of pedestrians, most have things to say and its fun to mess with them

-Tons of random crimes to stop

-Radio stations out the wazoo, seriously best soundtrack in gaming history here, my personal favorite is The Ritual.

-so many insane cars to steal and drive around (driving controls are actually good when you play in first person mode with a controller.. I was doing 360 spins into parallel parks...)

-lots of guns and goodies to find

-parkour, parkour, parkour ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ its like playing dying light, I get outnof so many situations by parkouring

[papalazarou]

absobloominexactly...theres not i thing i dont like about this game.

[WinrarChickenDinrar]

There is more life in saints row 3 than this game. Keep coping.

[Nats]

Parkour really?

[Angry Obnoxious Goose]

Originally posted by papalazarou:

absobloominexactly...theres not i thing i dont like about this game.

Except for the expected bugs and glitches, I take it? :)
Cuz, new game equals not-optimized-for-every-single-person. Somehow some people don't understand that.

[Imperial Patriot]

The issues is there's next to no AI for the civilians walking around the streets. And same goes with the cars. There's lots of people walking around and doing animations but you cannot interact with them in any meaningful way. Rockstar has really spoiled us with AI interaction tbh. (looking at you RDR2)

[Zefnoly]

Originally posted by AlternateKeK:

-parkour, parkour, parkour ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ its like playing dying light, I get outnof so many situations by parkouring

This brought back mirror's edge catalyst memories, just in this game you are free to do it in a whole city. Already found lots of interesting and funny locations. And glitchy locations you where never intended to see... xD. Even climbing up the megastructures from within when you are inside. Yes it is possible.

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Imperial Patriot:

The issues is there's next to no AI for the civilians walking around the streets. And same goes with the cars. There's lots of people walking around and doing animations but you cannot interact with them in any meaningful way. Rockstar has really spoiled us with AI interaction tbh. (looking at you RDR2)

Rockstar? I'm sorry but games from 10-15 years ago have AI better than 2077, its not that it looks bad compared to a game that set a standard for AI interaction it looks bad compared to everything other than unity asset flips.

[Singrave]

Originally posted by MeatMan:

https://imgur.com/jF03mt6

lold
https://preview.redd.it/8menjzqn7w461.gif?format=mp4&s=9d0b632a46ebd6fa6226a6d7e762890087b46cda

[LeakyAbstraction]

Originally posted by WinrarDinrar:

There is more life in saints row 3 than this game. Keep coping.

+1

[schwing27]

Originally posted by MeatMan:

https://imgur.com/jF03mt6

hahahahahaha wow

[Monocaine]

It's not about the lack of content that makes it lifeless, it's more about the interactivity of the actual citizens. Hell I get tired of people cowering in fear calling me a psychopath just because I jumped.

[Orbnotacus]

I'll preface this by saying, I really like this game. All around, great game.

However...
When people say lifeless, they don't mean it's a literal ghost town, they mean it FEELS lifeless. It feels like they didn't spend much time on the city life.

MOST of the time you see bumper to bumper traffic, it's because the AI is being stupid.

There are only so many character models for citizens. When you see a line of 3 of the same exact fat guy, walking the same exact way, but with different shirt and pants... kinda kills immersion.

The pedestrian dialogue repeats anytime you go past scripted pedestrians. The 2 cops talking near your apartment at the food stand have the same exact conversation anytime you go near them.

Personally I hate the driving in this game overall. Bikes handle decently, and it's nice that the E-brake is actually useful. But driving cars feels like I'm playing midnight club, which is the worst driving game in history IMO. Plus there are no vehicle stats, at least none they show you, so I'm not going to waste money on a vehicle that MIGHT be faster instead of getting better cyberware.

I don't know if I would go so far as to call it parkour. It's no mirrors edge. It IS nice that they made it so easy to climb around on stuff. You can get out of any situation by just running or driving away in a straight line. Bad IA.

There are a million doors you'll never be able to open, that's annoying.



But not all bad...



I have found a few iconic weapons, my favorite being the dildo, lol.

The random crimes to stop are nice for the loot and something to do.

I too like the soundtrack for this game.


Overall this game IS great, but there is A LOT of attention to detail they just didn't bother with.
Like when you're talking to someone and their head is facing you and... sorta looking at you... but their body is gesturing and pointing at no one, because you're no longer standing in the place the dialogue started from.
Or when Judy boots up your second BD, asks if you're ready, you say yes, and she "triggers" it while looking you in the eye and never touching a button.

Dumb little things like that bother me, and there's a lot in this game.


Not trying to be argumentative, but saying the city isn't at all lifeless in Cyberpunk is like saying Assassins Creed 1 wasn't repetitive.

[Zefnoly]

Originally posted by Pepega:

It's not about the lack of content that makes it lifeless, it's more about the interactivity of the actual citizens. Hell I get tired of people cowering in fear calling me a psychopath just because I jumped.

Tbh in GTA V I experienced a lot of stupid behavoir from citizens as well. Just standing somewhere would scare people. Same with police there alike as in this game.

The difference is ofc the stupidity of the AI.

When police is standing stil in an investigation scene = can be hit by stray bullets by gangs attacking me. Police dont care even when hit in head so hard their torso bends over for a second while screaming.

Me standing even remotely close = 4 stars that last until I can hide in a simple location for a short while avoiding police spawning inside the wall.

They really need to fix the police. They should respond and arrest other citizens and gangs when they break the same laws you can break. This was even a thing in GTA SAN ANDREAS. Heck in GTA IV you could make police arrest normal civilizans by them attacking you in the sight of police. Heck you could even get two civilians fight eachother. This is a 12 year old game. And police would arrive in cars and not just spawn inside walls or right behind you. If they fixed the police system alone it would heavily improve immersivity. And also add ability for civilians to get angry and allow the police to get angered when spotting others breaking laws. Police should not be able to spawn on the top of a roof you had to spend 15 mins climbing without the aid of a flying vehicle.

[Nats]

Originally posted by Orbnotacus:

Overall this game IS great, but there is A LOT of attention to detail they just didn't bother with. Like when you're talking to someone and their head is facing you and... sorta looking at you... but their body is gesturing and pointing at no one, because you're no longer standing in the place the dialogue started from.
Or when Judy boots up your second BD, asks if you're ready, you say yes, and she "triggers" it while looking you in the eye and never touching a button.

Yeah but that's in Fallout 4 as well and most other games. There are limitations to games you know they cant plan for every eventuality. The thing is overall is the game good or not? Anyone can find things to moan about in computer games if they look.

[BiggieTheDog]

The city is detailed. A shame theres nothing to do in it.