Why are all the female characters (protagonist included) so ugly?

[Rabcor]

(To all the people talking about how pretty Judy and Evelyn are, I have not encountered them in the game yet, I've seen the promotional screenshots of them and they sure do look pretty in those, but just keep in mind I have not met those characters as I write this, these are my impressions from the first few hours of gameplay

PS: I really, legitimately want an official CD Projekt answer to this question... What sort of madness drove them to this?)

Man, this is a pretty good game, if we just look at the gameplay...

But the character creator was seriously disappointing, when I was trying to create a female character, we had options for most of the things I wanted to be able to change, but while flipping through the option for each individual feature, I couldn't help but notice that I was never happy with any option.

Even the color choices were dissatisfying, I was constantly just wondering why the hell we didn't get a slider, and why we didn't get the ability to use custom colors instead of choosing from a tiny pre-selected palette of colors for each feature instead...

It also struck me as quite odd that there was no option to have normal eyes, if you selected what looked like should have been normal eyes, you had like a dark grey sclera instead of a regular white one (maybe it's a bug? idk)

But the end result is that it's pretty much impossible to create a truly pretty character (at least female one, not sure how it is for the males), the best you can hope for is not ugly.

And then there are the female NPCs as well, I have not seen a single beautiful female NPC either, but I have seen a lot of butt ugly hags that look like they're in their 50s or 60s wearing skimpy clothes, I'm reminded of playing modded skyrim with skimpy armor mods and making the mistake of allowing old NPCs to wear them too, so you get like skimpily dressed wrinkled old granniies... That's kinda how it feels in cyberpunk for just about every female character.

Did CD Projekt decide to go woke or something? Who exactly is this game for, I was under the impression it was a game by adults for adults, as the lack of censorship and more mature or violent features would imply, but... What happened to the CD Projekt that made the witcher 3? where beautiful women existed, and women with appealing faces were abundant?

I feel like I'm getting mixed messages here... What is the lack of censorship even for, if none of what would normally be censored is something I'd actually want to see?

I just don't get it, before it's release we were getting all the right signals, that cd projekt don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about the SJWs, so what the ♥♥♥♥ is the meaning of this ♥♥♥♥?

I will not trust CD Projekt again, this is a serious red flag.

I mean look at this crap https://i.redd.it/ugmbpxmr0en51.jpg

What are they ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thinking? What kind of idiot made this decision? And who were all the idiots that didn't refuse to go along with it?

Update: It's a common argument for people to say that this looks realistic, I have an easy counter for this, the world lore, hell, even on the character creation screen it says "looks are everything" in the society within this game, and technology is so far developed, that cosmetic surgery should be at a whole another level compared to today. Judging by the society and technology within the game, almost every woman should be as beautiful as Judy, or at least close to it, simply due to the importance of good looks to this society, and how easily available cosmetic enhancements should have become.

[Zombie]

There are multiple fronts for uglier females in Western video games.

One is that women tend to see masculinity as strictly power, and they're raised their entire lives to see everything as if it relates to some vague feeling of ''power''. They also tend to be raised to believe that a majority of their woes is because they're living in a mans world, and since they are unable to stand up and start fighting back against what they view as an oppresive system, they fight back the only way they can, by making themselves completely undesirable (there are often calls to go on sexual strike in many feminist communities). This is why they're so invested in destroying digital and fake women, if men could just satisfy themselves with a talking robot where does that leave them?

People tend to pull kayfabe and treat going with a ''faker'' option is immoral, but if the chips were seriously down on the table and if men DID more often elect to take this route, they're left with basically nothing. I mean we're already seeing it in a mild sense with the Vtuber craze and Projekt Melody making far more money than literal onlyfans girls. Even if people who are viewing this kind of content aren't a majority, what's important is that it is what they ''see''. The whole bit about women being turned into sex objects is just a talking point they have to latch on to, because it completely skips the argument entirely and puts shame on the person who is enjoying the content and sounds a lot better, which is why they are trying so hard to make fiction as realistic as they possibly can, they HAVE to.



Another front is trans women, I believe it was a Ubisoft director(someone high up) who said that making uglier women often has less to do with fear of turning women into sexual objects, and more about trans women being forced to see ''natural women'' and being unable to physically compete with them in any way. By making them ''uglier'' it supposedly makes them feel more confident in themselves.



Another front is groups of people that don't care, but think they're better than others because they're less vocal about the current trend in Western gaming. You ever mention you don't like how they take out some sexy scene or something in a game and some doofus is like ''Well why not just watch porn you loser? lol imagine getting mad about that etc''. Those kinds of people, they don't actually have a problem with anything but personally feel that people who enjoy a little T&A in their games as harmless fun to be...for lack of a better term, inferior to them, and generally keep a supportive attitude about these art decisions purely to spite a group they don't like.



There are many other petty groups that relate more to the third group, but the point is the amalgamation of all these voices along with the restrictions in content that Sony enforces and current Workforce conditions means that uglier females are probably never going away anytime soon.

[Rabcor]

Originally posted by fox:

Originally posted by Umbrawolf:

So angry...they must have run out of blue hair dye at your favorite vegan supply store :D

Says the one with an anime pfp with red hair :P

You do know red is a natural hair color right?

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by Rabcor:

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

You must be delusional about the scale of "ugly". You meet an attractive girl in the combat tutorial at the beginning of the story. Wearing skin tight leather. Or do you not think shes attractive?

The black bald chick? She looks ok, but I don't know, the bald look she's rockin just ain't doing it for me, call me old fashioned.

Thats the thing, that is the "cyberpunk" fashion style they are going for. You aren't going to find long, straight haired, blonde with blue eyed makeup girls in this setting. That's just not the fashion trend of the time the game is in.

It would be like George Washington complaining that all women in our time are ugly because they don't wear corsets and those old vintage dresses.

[MuffinButter™]

This is what our grandfathers fought for.

[Rabcor]

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

Originally posted by Rabcor:

The black bald chick? She looks ok, but I don't know, the bald look she's rockin just ain't doing it for me, call me old fashioned.

Thats the thing, that is the "cyberpunk" fashion style they are going for. You aren't going to find long, straight haired, blonde with blue eyed makeup girls in this setting. That's just not the fashion trend of the time the game is in.

It would be like George Washington complaining that all women in our time are ugly because they don't wear corsets and those old vintage dresses.

I see I see, but if that's the case, how come the fashion trend for males is like a copy paste of modern standards? (yeah your argument holds no water, sorry bruh)

[OVTSIDER]

I can smell the lack of deodorant on this post, you neckbeards just gotta wait for mods if you want to play as your naked dreamgirl. Seriously, what a waste of time, just complaining about "muh femalz look bad :( "

[Montiblanc]

well if u guys prefer goblins, hey good for you, im out

[Zombie]

Originally posted by DatSpaceBoi:

I can smell the lack of deodorant on this post, you neckbeards just gotta wait for mods if you want to play as your naked dreamgirl. Seriously, what a waste of time, just complaining about "muh femalz look bad :( "

This is the third group I am talking about. They think they're better than everyone else.

[Werdna]

Originally posted by MuffinButter™:

This is what our grandfathers fought for.

Mine fought against Poland tho, but I can kinda relate still, totally unacceptable.

[Rabcor]

Originally posted by DatSpaceBoi:

I can smell the lack of deodorant on this post, you neckbeards just gotta wait for mods if you want to play as your naked dreamgirl. Seriously, what a waste of time, just complaining about "muh femalz look bad :( "

Hey it's false advertising, if someone posts an ad that they're selling a car, then you go visit them and they show you an incredibly good looking audi, you pay them, sign some documents, and then you find that he was actually selling you an ugly rusted lada, would you be perfectly happy?

That's what CD Projekt did here, female V in the trailers and promotional screenshots looked 10x better than even the best looking V that can be created in the game's character creator. She's the audi, and the ugly V you're gonna be playing as, that's the lada.

[Trllly]

You havent ecountered Evelyn and Judy yet? So that would mean you more than likely only met one female character besides (Potentially) V... Evelyn and Judy are like one of the first female characters you meet. Are you talking about NPC's or what? Cause so far every female character looks fine.

[Trllly]

Didnt read all of your post cause it immediately got dumb and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are you an idiot? Youre mad at CDPR for going "Woke" and for censoring a game "made by adults, for adults" What the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about? Grow up.

[Rabcor]

Originally posted by Chill Bill:

You havent ecountered Evelyn and Judy yet? So that would mean you more than likely only met one female character besides (Potentially) V... Evelyn and Judy are like one of the first female characters you meet. Are you talking about NPC's or what? Cause so far every female character looks fine.

I've walked around V's apartment building, and down a couple streets, there have been a lot of female characters I looked at close up...

I didn't actually count, but there were at least 15. All of them either looked like they were in their 50s, or had a jaw as big and sharp as clark ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kent. Even the men in the game don't have jaws that masculine.

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by Rabcor:

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

Thats the thing, that is the "cyberpunk" fashion style they are going for. You aren't going to find long, straight haired, blonde with blue eyed makeup girls in this setting. That's just not the fashion trend of the time the game is in.

It would be like George Washington complaining that all women in our time are ugly because they don't wear corsets and those old vintage dresses.

I see I see, but if that's the case, how come the fashion trend for males is like a copy paste of modern standards? (yeah your argument holds no water, sorry bruh)

They don't? If you try to make a male protagonist it's the same way. It's difficult to make him look like he hasn't been smoking crack for years.

Also it seems more normal for males because they've always had a wide array of character shapes and sizes. Long hair, short hair, tall, skinny, fat, shredded, males have always have large visual difference in games. Even in this game you have everything ranging from shredded body Viktor to 400 pound Dexter.

Thats why they seem more "standard", because we've already broadened the norm for males. Females are just now starting to get the same treatment.

[пюпю]

Well it's a realistic representation ofa LGBTQ2S+-dominated world so it makes sense women are ugly-looking, unnatural and repulsive.