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Sardukhar 2020 年 2 月 26 日 上午 9:00
GoG's New Refund Policy: Return even after playing.
For those worried about wasting your money:

"1. How does your updated voluntary Refund Policy work?
The updated policy lets you refund a product up to 30 days after purchase, even if it was downloaded, launched, and played. Yes, you read that correctly. :)"


https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006129837?_ga=2.73742545.275285013.1582726944-959394066.1576684274&product=gog
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papalazarou 2020 年 2 月 26 日 上午 9:17 
WOW
DecayWolf 2020 年 2 月 26 日 上午 9:45 
I mean... GoG games were DRM free. People who bought it, did because they wanted to support.

Some times a game has a great start, then lost itself at some point.
Some times a game may have a game breaking bug, which prevents the story progression or simply ruin the enjoyment.
Some times one may feel X game simply doesn't worth Y price or any money at all.

30 days may be a little bit too much, but overall this is an excellent customer service, which other platforms should adhere as well.
Yeah, after this one, I'll be A LOT more inclined to purchase from there than from steam.
Duncan 2020 年 2 月 26 日 上午 10:47 
After reading their FAQ I've got a feeling nothing really changed. They specifically ask people to refund only if a game doesn't work as expected (7th point in FAQ) and they will still process every refund request individually, rejecting the case if they believe reasons for refunding are not valid.

But we will see how it works and how long it lasts, personally I don't trust PR talk.
Lady Hunk lUCl™ 2020 年 2 月 26 日 上午 11:23 
That will be abuse so much if they don't change that. I mean I'am sure the real CDPR supporters won't commit such thing , refunding the game when it runs properly just so you can try to finish the game within 30 days.
𝙹𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛 2020 年 2 月 26 日 下午 10:46 
引用自 The Commendatore
So there's no play time limit for refunding, or did they just omit that?
There is indeed no time limit, they'd said purchases are eligible for refunds if "something didn't work out as you'd expected" and that they reserve the right to refuse refunds in individual cases. So I'm assuming each request is arbitrary. Though the way they'd worded it, you can finish the game and there is prospect of a request being accepted even if you'd finished the game. In any case, while the policy is very generous towards us, we're still going to have "those players". And since GOG is DRM free, you could still technically keep the game after refunding it.
Engels78 2020 年 2 月 27 日 上午 2:36 
I got this info yesterday on my e-mail and I was just going to write about it in Your Choosen Platform topic 😉
Barnobestabn 2020 年 2 月 27 日 上午 10:22 
Thier either really trusting or someone goofed up.
PsychoDino 2020 年 2 月 27 日 下午 3:15 
引用自 Sardukhar
For those worried about wasting your money:

"1. How does your updated voluntary Refund Policy work?
The updated policy lets you refund a product up to 30 days after purchase, even if it was downloaded, launched, and played. Yes, you read that correctly. :)"


https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006129837?_ga=2.73742545.275285013.1582726944-959394066.1576684274&product=gog
GOG has to compete somehow
sling_shot 2020 年 2 月 28 日 上午 2:06 
Brothers, please, read between the lines.

GOG's "new" refund policy might sound better than Steam's, but it is actually still much stricter, even after this update: the process is explicitly aimed at those who experience actual technical issues with the game, there's an actual tech team involved in the process.

The "But I didn't like the game!" scenario is never mentioned.

The assistance request page itself doesn't even have an option to just request a refund. That's why it's called help request , not refund request. They will always do whatever it takes to make your game work on your PC and eventually grant you a refund if the game refuses to work.

Just because they're saying they might give you a refund even after you've played the game in the last 30 days, doesn't mean they will just give it to you for any reason. The point of this entire process is to help those who don't know that pcgamingwiki exists to get their OLD games to run correctly on modern systems.

Also,

14. BUT WHAT IF A WHOLE LOT OF MY GAMES DON'T WORK?

We know that, since we're the Internet's leading DRM-free gaming platform, our Money Back Guarantee offer here is open to a certain amount of abuse. If you're being a bad person who's abusing our trust of you and asking for a whole lot of your games to be refunded and we can't resolve your problems, we'll have to stop offering you refunds.

So don't be that guy. No one likes that guy. How many games can you ask for money back? We're humans here, so there's no hard numbers. If it seems like you're exploiting us, we'll let you know and tell you that this will be your final refund offer from us.


What they're saying is, all this update does is extend the refund window to 30 days for those who, say, after a the Nth stupid Windows 10 update, can't get their game to stop crashing.
That actually happens a lot.
The process remains the same and if you pretend to have a problem, they'll notice.

On steam, you only need to play the game for less than 2 hours, decide whether it meets your tastes and , in case it doesn't, request a refund and you'll get it no questions asked through a strict but fair, automated and safe process.

Steam can afford to do that because there's actual DRM involved.
GOG can't, because the second you buy the game you gain unlimited accesss to an offline installer of the DRM copy of the game.
最后由 sling_shot 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 28 日 上午 2:07
Engels78 2020 年 2 月 28 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 kill-chan
Brothers, please, read between the lines.

GOG's "new" refund policy might sound better than Steam's, but it is actually still much stricter, even after this update: the process is explicitly aimed at those who experience actual technical issues with the game, there's an actual tech team involved in the process.

The "But I didn't like the game!" scenario is never mentioned.

The assistance request page itself doesn't even have an option to just request a refund. That's why it's called help request , not refund request. They will always do whatever it takes to make your game work on your PC and eventually grant you a refund if the game refuses to work.

Just because they're saying they might give you a refund even after you've played the game in the last 30 days, doesn't mean they will just give it to you for any reason. The point of this entire process is to help those who don't know that pcgamingwiki exists to get their OLD games to run correctly on modern systems.

Also,

14. BUT WHAT IF A WHOLE LOT OF MY GAMES DON'T WORK?

We know that, since we're the Internet's leading DRM-free gaming platform, our Money Back Guarantee offer here is open to a certain amount of abuse. If you're being a bad person who's abusing our trust of you and asking for a whole lot of your games to be refunded and we can't resolve your problems, we'll have to stop offering you refunds.

So don't be that guy. No one likes that guy. How many games can you ask for money back? We're humans here, so there's no hard numbers. If it seems like you're exploiting us, we'll let you know and tell you that this will be your final refund offer from us.


What they're saying is, all this update does is extend the refund window to 30 days for those who, say, after a the Nth stupid Windows 10 update, can't get their game to stop crashing.
That actually happens a lot.
The process remains the same and if you pretend to have a problem, they'll notice.

On steam, you only need to play the game for less than 2 hours, decide whether it meets your tastes and , in case it doesn't, request a refund and you'll get it no questions asked through a strict but fair, automated and safe process.

Steam can afford to do that because there's actual DRM involved.
GOG can't, because the second you buy the game you gain unlimited accesss to an offline installer of the DRM copy of the game.

I got this in email:
Można ją podsumować jednym zdaniem:
od teraz możecie otrzymać pełny zwrot, do 30 dni od daty zakupu produktu, nawet jeśli gra została pobrana i uruchomiona

You can put it into Translator, but it means "you can sum up by one sentence: from now on you can get full refund, up to 30 days from purchase date, even if game has been downloaded and started"

So same as Sardukhar wrote...
最后由 Engels78 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 28 日 上午 9:55
Sardukhar 2020 年 2 月 28 日 下午 2:55 
Please don't accuse developers of lying without clear evidence of such action.

Spreading information to that effect without evidence is not welcome here.

It also looks a lot like troublemaking and stirring up worry. No.

sling_shot 2020 年 2 月 28 日 下午 4:27 
Lying? Never said that.

I said the full story is in the FAQ.
To just say "full refund up to 30 days!" isn't accurate.

Anyway I've already made my point.
最后由 sling_shot 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 28 日 下午 4:30
Bordric 2020 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:42 
Steam is the best. If the game doesn't catch in 1 hour, then refund. I have done it several times with turd games.
最后由 Bordric 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 28 日 下午 10:42
Nic Cage Is Love <3 2020 年 2 月 29 日 上午 4:02 
So, whats the latest drama? yes GOG went ahead because with the praise they've built they could dare to come up with such policy, if steam did that, oh god... the abuse...

neverthless, steam/epic refund is still fine, nintendo though... lmao.
sling_shot 2020 年 2 月 29 日 上午 6:21 
Listen , it's very simple:

On Steam, the refund can be your first option from the get go.
At some point you can decide you don't want the game anymore, click 2 buttons and BAM, you get your money back.
2 hours, 14 days, no questions asked, no human interaction to solve a problem that you don't want to solve. Because DRM.

GOG: the refund is always the last solution, unless you can prove you've never, ever ,ever downloaded the game or the installer. And if you try to get a refund for too many games, they will stop accepting your requests. This hasn't changed.
You not liking the game wasn't, isn't and never will be a scenario they may be willing to consider, because of the possibility that you might be lying about it. There's no DRM after all.
If the platform was a piracy heaven, no one would ever want to sell their games there.
Awesome store, definetly my first choice for everything ( don't believe me? https://www.gog.com/u/kill-chan/games )BUT don't jump in expecting a DRM free version of Steam in every single aspect.


This policy update would be huge news if GOG had DRM too and the process was automated, or if Steam/PS/XB or any other platform with DRM were the ones implementing it.
That's not the case.
最后由 sling_shot 编辑于; 2020 年 2 月 29 日 上午 6:44
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