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Gradash Aug 30, 2019 @ 1:46pm
As someone that suffers from Motion Sickness, This is why I'll not buy this game.
Unfortunately, once devs just chose to not even give an option for the third-person camera, I just can't play a game that is FP only, that decision to not give EVEN AS AN OPTION makes me feel you really don't want me. Anyone that suffers from motion sickness is excluded from play this game permanently.

Motion Sickness has various levels, mine is moderate. I suffer the problems with cars, FP games or Third Person games without a good FOV slider, No Man's Sky for me is unplayable even with Third Person been recently added. If the game has been EXTREME slow like Amnesia, I still can play it but any forced camera movement is just terrible, everything got dizzy. Anything faster than that pain is too big to be acceptable.

So, am I asking to remove FP? No, what I ask is to give an option for TP, even if a not so good option. TP on Fallout or Elder Scrolls series are terrible but playable, but eventually, the modders had fixed it. But at least give me an option to play that game. But without any option, I just can't play it without drug myself with a lot of anti-sickness remedy that must need to be ingested 1 hour before to play.

And don't matter how much immersion you say the FP camera gives to you, that gives it TO YOU, not to me. Play a game with strong remedies is not a good experience at all.

For a long time I had tried to play FP only games, I already had tried a lot of suggestions and other things, but 1 to 2 years ago, I just give up. Play in seasons of 30 minutes with pauses of 2 hours to recover is terrible and ruin any experience.

So this is why I'll not buy your game, if you give the option to change the camera, definitely I'll buy it. Until there, just not.

I know eventually, the community will add a Third Person camera mod, as they have done with Crysis, Borderlands, etc. But that mods not are always wonderful since they need to use hacks and other things to make it work, and pay for a game to have a bad experience? My money have more value than that.
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Rick Aug 30, 2019 @ 1:48pm 
That truly sucks, I hope they add third person or that a modder gets to it immediately.
RasaNova Aug 30, 2019 @ 1:52pm 
Is it bad that I find it refreshing to go back to what people were bashing the game about, before the gender outrage?
Thor Aug 30, 2019 @ 1:54pm 
Please search the forums for the topic before you create a new discussion. This topic has already been covered in multiple threads, no need to create the 200th thread of the same topic

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/1636416768326231902/

As I stated in that discussion that no, perspective does not cause motion sickness. I too suffer from severe motion sickness and First Person Perspective does not trigger my motion sickness. A bunch of other factors do like motion blur, low FOV, DOF, chromatic aberration etc. however, do.

And as for No Man's Sky, as you yourself pointed out, even third person makes you motion sick. It's not the perspective that's the problem. It's the field of view. And No Man'sSky has pretty much everything wrong that I listed above.
Last edited by Thor; Aug 30, 2019 @ 1:56pm
Gradash Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Raizo:
Please search the forums for the topic before you create a new discussion. This topic has already been covered in multiple threads, no need to create the 200th thread of the same topic

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/1636416768326231902/

As I stated in that discussion that no, perspective does not cause motion sickness. I too suffer from severe motion sickness and First Person Perspective does not trigger my motion sickness. A bunch of other factors do like motion blur, low FOV, DOF, chromatic aberration etc. however, do.

And as for No Man's Sky, as you yourself pointed out, even third person makes you motion sick. It's not the perspective that's the problem. It's the field of view. And No Man'sSky has pretty much everything wrong that I listed above.

Well, I know I lot of people with problems too, and the most common thing is FP camera, for me for example, Skyrim at FP is a hell, on TP is good. Motion Sickness for me only affects me on FP, TP I can play with it on, I turn it off because I hate it.
Sunsetter Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:08pm 
Hopefully mods will fix it.
Gradash Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Samael:
Hopefully mods will fix it.


Is sad need to wait for modders do what devs don't want.
Sunsetter Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Gradash:
Originally posted by Samael:
Hopefully mods will fix it.


Is sad need to wait for modders do what devs don't want.
Yeah, well... at least there's hope.
Thor Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by Gradash:
Originally posted by Raizo:
Please search the forums for the topic before you create a new discussion. This topic has already been covered in multiple threads, no need to create the 200th thread of the same topic

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/1636416768326231902/

As I stated in that discussion that no, perspective does not cause motion sickness. I too suffer from severe motion sickness and First Person Perspective does not trigger my motion sickness. A bunch of other factors do like motion blur, low FOV, DOF, chromatic aberration etc. however, do.

And as for No Man's Sky, as you yourself pointed out, even third person makes you motion sick. It's not the perspective that's the problem. It's the field of view. And No Man'sSky has pretty much everything wrong that I listed above.

Well, I know I lot of people with problems too, and the most common thing is FP camera, for me for example, Skyrim at FP is a hell, on TP is good. Motion Sickness for me only affects me on FP, TP I can play with it on, I turn it off because I hate it.
Did you try increasing the field of view in Skyrim? I usually go into the settings and set the FOV to 110° to make me feel comfortable.

Note that you can't set the field of view this high unless you go into the games text files and edit some lines.

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that it's only the perspective that is to blame?
Last edited by Thor; Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:16pm
Gradash Aug 30, 2019 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by Raizo:
Originally posted by Gradash:

Well, I know I lot of people with problems too, and the most common thing is FP camera, for me for example, Skyrim at FP is a hell, on TP is good. Motion Sickness for me only affects me on FP, TP I can play with it on, I turn it off because I hate it.
Did you try increasing the field of view in Skyrim? I usually go into the settings and set the FOV to 110° to make me feel comfortable.

Note that you can't set the field of view this high unless you go into the games text files and edit some lines.

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that it's only the perspective that is to blame?


The max of the engine is 77, more than that the game breaks. For me 75 is already good enough, bigger than 90 causes me motion-sickness too. So I need to be between 75 to 90, less or more, motion sickness.
Marcosdonalt Jan 4, 2021 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by Gradash:
Unfortunately, once devs just chose to not even give an option for the third-person camera, I just can't play a game that is FP only, that decision to not give EVEN AS AN OPTION makes me feel you really don't want me. Anyone that suffers from motion sickness is excluded from play this game permanently.

Motion Sickness has various levels, mine is moderate. I suffer the problems with cars, FP games or Third Person games without a good FOV slider, No Man's Sky for me is unplayable even with Third Person been recently added. If the game has been EXTREME slow like Amnesia, I still can play it but any forced camera movement is just terrible, everything got dizzy. Anything faster than that pain is too big to be acceptable.

So, am I asking to remove FP? No, what I ask is to give an option for TP, even if a not so good option. TP on Fallout or Elder Scrolls series are terrible but playable, but eventually, the modders had fixed it. But at least give me an option to play that game. But without any option, I just can't play it without drug myself with a lot of anti-sickness remedy that must need to be ingested 1 hour before to play.

And don't matter how much immersion you say the FP camera gives to you, that gives it TO YOU, not to me. Play a game with strong remedies is not a good experience at all.

For a long time I had tried to play FP only games, I already had tried a lot of suggestions and other things, but 1 to 2 years ago, I just give up. Play in seasons of 30 minutes with pauses of 2 hours to recover is terrible and ruin any experience.

So this is why I'll not buy your game, if you give the option to change the camera, definitely I'll buy it. Until there, just not.

I know eventually, the community will add a Third Person camera mod, as they have done with Crysis, Borderlands, etc. But that mods not are always wonderful since they need to use hacks and other things to make it work, and pay for a game to have a bad experience? My money have more value than that.
this game makes me dizzy in like 10 minutes
ShadyLurker Jan 4, 2021 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Gradash:
Unfortunately, once devs just chose to not even give an option for the third-person camera, I just can't play a game that is FP only, that decision to not give EVEN AS AN OPTION makes me feel you really don't want me. Anyone that suffers from motion sickness is excluded from play this game permanently.

Motion Sickness has various levels, mine is moderate. I suffer the problems with cars, FP games or Third Person games without a good FOV slider, No Man's Sky for me is unplayable even with Third Person been recently added. If the game has been EXTREME slow like Amnesia, I still can play it but any forced camera movement is just terrible, everything got dizzy. Anything faster than that pain is too big to be acceptable.

So, am I asking to remove FP? No, what I ask is to give an option for TP, even if a not so good option. TP on Fallout or Elder Scrolls series are terrible but playable, but eventually, the modders had fixed it. But at least give me an option to play that game. But without any option, I just can't play it without drug myself with a lot of anti-sickness remedy that must need to be ingested 1 hour before to play.

And don't matter how much immersion you say the FP camera gives to you, that gives it TO YOU, not to me. Play a game with strong remedies is not a good experience at all.

For a long time I had tried to play FP only games, I already had tried a lot of suggestions and other things, but 1 to 2 years ago, I just give up. Play in seasons of 30 minutes with pauses of 2 hours to recover is terrible and ruin any experience.

So this is why I'll not buy your game, if you give the option to change the camera, definitely I'll buy it. Until there, just not.

I know eventually, the community will add a Third Person camera mod, as they have done with Crysis, Borderlands, etc. But that mods not are always wonderful since they need to use hacks and other things to make it work, and pay for a game to have a bad experience? My money have more value than that.
Not everything is meant for everybody, quicker you learn that the better off in life you'll be. If FPS's make you sick then face the facts, this game (an FPS) is just not for you. Move on, find a game you can handle
['w'] Jan 4, 2021 @ 2:11am 
fov to max and you can disable camera shacking, even motion blur I believe
🐠🍑 Jan 4, 2021 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Gradash:
Originally posted by Samael:
Hopefully mods will fix it.


Is sad need to wait for modders do what devs don't want.
Modders always save the day when it comes to big gaming companies that dont feel the need to finish rhe games they sell us.

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Letobrick Jan 4, 2021 @ 3:03am 
I hear you, I tend to get motion sickness playing first person and many third person games as well. GTA 5/Online is one of the few games of this genre that doesn't give me motion sickness - likely because of the generous amount of camera options available. Wish this game provided similar options.
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