QLoc sucks at making PC ports

[Thespeedyraisin]

In this sea of people talking about their issues with the performance of the game and toxic a-holes out right saying that if you can't run the game, you should throw your PC in the trash, because it's a potato, and that you're unthankful that they ported another game of this series to PC.

All I can think of is how much QLoc sucks at making ports, I had issues with their bad work with Kiwami 2, having very weird problems, like crashing upon changing resolutions, or staying on a black screen with audio playing, with no aparent fix.

(Now, I'm not having that many issues with Yakuza 3 so far, just a few framedrops at 30 FPS, but I'm disappointed how the game runs worse than Kiwami 1 and 0, since they're made on the same engine, further proving the point that QLoc is terrible at making ports)

[Red]

Originally posted by Gamma Ray:

Didn't Qloc rescue Mortal Kombat X? Granted, I can't say I remember any of their work being super spectacular like the Durante redo of the Ys 8 PC version, but Qloc seemed to do fine. I also thought Yakuza Kiwami 2 was fine. If that was done by Qloc, then great. I didn't even have to use mods to make Kiwami 2 run well and look how I wanted it to look like I did for the first two Yakuza games on Steam.

Yep, QLOC saved MKX. But they're also responsible for some wonky ports, including some infamous ones like God Eater Resurrection.

Kiwami 2 has issues 0 and Kiwami don't have, like physics being broken the higher your framerate goes or insane controller detection, and also keeps the worst common issues like bad memory management. The port is serviceable since it works and is playable normally for the most part, but it's held back by its issues.

[Legato Bluesummers]

Originally posted by Yuu Takasaki:

Why they didn't make Lab42 work on porting this game? They did good job on Yakuza 0 and Kiwami. When i see QLOC on intro, oh no... i have bad feeling about this.

I'm not so sure that Lab42 didn't originally work on the ports. These remasters have been in steamdb for 2 years or so. as soon as xboner stepped in they may have gotten QLOC to handle everything so there would be simultaneous releases. Eventually we may know the full story but I suspect microsoft meddling.

[Red]

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

Originally posted by Yuu Takasaki:

Why they didn't make Lab42 work on porting this game? They did good job on Yakuza 0 and Kiwami. When i see QLOC on intro, oh no... i have bad feeling about this.

I'm not so sure that Lab42 didn't originally work on the ports. These remasters have been in steamdb for 2 years or so. as soon as xboner stepped in they may have gotten QLOC to handle everything so there would be simultaneous releases. Eventually we may know the full story but I suspect microsoft meddling.

That would make sense considering some of the shared code (memory management to be precise), though IIRC QLOC was rumoured to work or have worked on the Yakuza 6 PC port back when Kiwami 2 launched so maybe Sega had already decided to let QLOC handle everything back then (and reuse code from previous ports).

[fade2black001]

Originally posted by kęsik:

Yeah i think QLOC is very overrated. They'd made some good ports along the years but nowadays i think there getting worse and worse. Yakuza 3 port is much worse than Kiwami 2 port. It runs far worse than 0 and Kiwami 1. It's really bad. I'm liking the game itself but because of port state i almost want to write negative review. Lab42 ports were much better than this.

I never had any problems running those games. They all ran perfectly fine for me. My system is also grossly overpowered compared to the recommended specs as well though. I definitely seen immensely worse ports on my end though.

[Thespeedyraisin]

I'm still amazed how a huge ammount of all of you guys only think the port is good because you guys have like, NASA tier rigs, when not everyone on steam can afford that kind of stuff, in fact, most steam users have PCs that can't even be considered as gaming rigs.

For once, for you all saying the port is good because your PC is a monster, try to think outside of that little box of yours for once

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by Vidar:

Originally posted by WeanlingAce:

Whats wrong with the port? From what I played of it so far, everything is stable. Why do you expect these companies to try and make this for people who's computers clearly need to be upgraded. Dont get me wrong, I was there at one point but if you're still rocking a cpu without AVX, thats probably a sign to get something checked out.

There's something obviously wrong when a game this old is capable of stressing not 1 but 2 cores from a relatively modern Ryzen 3700X, whilst still making use of two more cores, although with less utilization. The game is filtering people with old CPUs, like Sandy Bridge, when it absolutely shouldn't.

Oh my, that's like, issues that you're having? On a Ryzen? Damn, they blew it big time then

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by Hidenori:

First of all thank you for making this thread.
People with expensive high-end PCs shouldn't be worried about running a PS3 game. But for people who have mid or lower-end PCs like me, it's a problem.
Now can anyone, who has a high-end PC, who thinks it's our fault for having "potato PCs", answer me this: Why the hell can I run Yakuza 0, a game that is much newer, much more graphically superior, at a constant 60fps, but cannot run this PS3 game that came out in 2008 at a constant 60?
Is it our fault, or is it actually the people who did a bad job at porting these games?

First: Well, there had to be someone to try and talk about that openly, even if I pretty much fell to the scrutiny of the PC Master Racers of this community, I don't really give a ♥♥♥♥♥, I just wanna give SEGA and RGG a piece of my mind about QLOC's terrible work.

Second: Considering that my PC can also run 0 and Kiwami 1 very smoothly as well, and then 3 can't even get to like, 15 fps at times, and those 3 games are made on the same engine, then yes, I do think that's mostly QLOC's fault, rather than all of us being poor and owning a "potato" underpowered PC

[SHREDDER]

MY PC IS A MONSTER YES. IT IS CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING 4GB HDD1: WD BLACK 4TB HDD2: 1TB PSU: CORSAIR 750M 750 WATT MONITOR:DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO SSD: MP 600 2TB WRITE 4950MB/S READ 4250 MB/S
And it runs it at Ultra 1440p max settings and also all current games at max settings 1440p with more than 30 fps but yakuza 3 runs maxed 1440p 60 fps on my pc as you see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bZfsXyhWU

However nowdays most people who play games have at least a pc like mine or better

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

They certainly do.

This is hands down the worst PC port I've ever seen :(

The fact the dev of a tool that is very much a competitor of Reshade, it goes to show how shoddy QLOC's work was lol

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

MY PC IS A MONSTER YES. IT IS CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING 4GB HDD1: WD BLACK 4TB HDD2: 1TB PSU: CORSAIR 750M 750 WATT MONITOR:DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO SSD: MP 600 2TB WRITE 4950MB/S READ 4250 MB/S
And it runs it at Ultra 1440p max settings and also all current games at max settings 1440p with more than 30 fps but yakuza 3 runs maxed 1440p 60 fps on my pc as you see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bZfsXyhWU

However nowdays most people who play games have at least a pc like mine or better

Good for you that you got that Ryzen 666 with 2394804810238120380123801283 virgin-ram by ♥♥♥♥♥gigafartz. But I don't care, not everyone on Steam owns a rig around that same level lmao

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by Ghigi:

Maybe, just maybe....listing your specs might help. I run all Yakuza games including 3 with no issues. My specs as follows:

i7 6700k@4,6ghz
MB Asus Z170A
16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 2400
Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+ 8gb
SSD Crucial MX300 750Gb

OS: Windows 10 Pro ver.2004
AMD drivers: 20.2.2

My guy, I don't think it was really that necessary to show your rig specs, you just flashed the figurative size of your pp.

And besides, like I stated a bunch of times already:
0 and Kiwami 1: They run smooth as butter on my PC, no problems :)
Yakuza 3: Runs on the same engine as both 0 and Kiwami 1, looks worse, yet, it runs like crap, and it got ported by a completely different team.

Enough said

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by BONKERS:

Originally posted by Thespeedyraisin:

I do get where you're coming from, they probably didn't have lower spec machines to troubleshoot and stuff, but honestly, QLOC is very well known for optimization blunders, so that kinda surprises me how they just seem to ignore the criticisms and just keep making shoddy ports. (I didn't even know Revelations 2 was ported by them, I own that game, I've switched computers 3 times and none of them could run Revelations 2 in a stable way lol)

There's a file you can download that will make Revelations 2 run immensely better.
The game went from being unplayable on my old i7 950 GTX 980 to 60FPS stable (Except in that one level in the sewers)
https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/606-resident-evil-hd-remaster-fps-fix/
It was made for REmake HD but it also works on Rev 2.



Seeing QLOC's name on something is like playing a game of Roulette. It's either going to be adequate and serviceable or complete crap.

Y'know, even if that's not related, I appreciate this, I actually wanted to play more of Revelations 2, but couldn't due for it being unbearably bad in performance, so I think I might give that patch a try, thanks :)

[Vidar]

Originally posted by Thespeedyraisin:

Oh my, that's like, issues that you're having? On a Ryzen? Damn, they blew it big time then

Good job misinterpreting the whole post.

[Thespeedyraisin]

Originally posted by Vidar:

Originally posted by Thespeedyraisin:

Oh my, that's like, issues that you're having? On a Ryzen? Damn, they blew it big time then

Good job misinterpreting the whole post.

Well, what I got of it is that the port is stressing out a processor that shouldn't even have issues with a game like this, and because of that, it's kinda gate keeping users of certain processors, when it shouldn't really have to (That's what I got of it, but do feel free to be more specific about it so my monkey brain can understand)

[SHREDDER]

Originally posted by Thespeedyraisin:

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

MY PC IS A MONSTER YES. IT IS CPU: RYZEN 7 1700 RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING 4GB HDD1: WD BLACK 4TB HDD2: 1TB PSU: CORSAIR 750M 750 WATT MONITOR:DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO SSD: MP 600 2TB WRITE 4950MB/S READ 4250 MB/S
And it runs it at Ultra 1440p max settings and also all current games at max settings 1440p with more than 30 fps but yakuza 3 runs maxed 1440p 60 fps on my pc as you see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bZfsXyhWU

However nowdays most people who play games have at least a pc like mine or better

Good for you that you got that Ryzen 666 with 2394804810238120380123801283 virgin-ram by ♥♥♥♥♥gigafartz. But I don't care, not everyone on Steam owns a rig around that same level lmao

It is a 2017 cpu ram and motherboard, a 2019 high end ssd, a 2014 hgih end graphics card and a 2016 psu. Most recent upgrade was in July when i got the SSD MP 600 2TB. Previous upgrade was in 2017(cpu ram motherboard and the 4 tb hdd) psu and montiro in 2016. GTX 970 i have it since 2014 hwoever it still runs all games at max settings 1440p 30+ fps. I play all action gmaes and iam pc gamer sicne 1996 when i was 9 years old. I upgrade when it stops runnign them at max settings. While my pc is not the newest or the most powerful it is strong enough to still run all games at max settings 1440p. But i need a better graphics card for ray tracing and 60 fps.