Alan Wake 2 fail to sell because of its Woke and Sweet Baby Inc?

[Vivi d’Arc]

Why is everyone calling it Alan Woke 2?

keep it civil, thanks in advance

[Irot Noot]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by Blonde:

A game being their best selling game isn't as relevant as the fact that the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game itself hasn't even made back its own budget. Keep coping though.

Uh, so all games are supposed to make back their budget in the first month? Are you a business manager for the game industry.

What you fail to realize is Remedy didnt pay a dime to make AW 2, and Epic Games is worth $32 BIllion dollars. There's actually no real need to recoup costs. Even though they will in fact do so.

As I said before. Remedy games sell better in the long run. Control had its best sales 15 months after release. Even though it didnt sell that well right away. Yet still made a profit and got a sequel and MP spinoff. It did so well in the long run, Remedy even had the money to buy back full rights from 505 games. So they now have total control over the IP.

But yea, Keep trolling to make it seem like you actually know what you are talking about.

Its odd and telling that you mention how Control took 15 months to recoup its costs without mentioning that it came to Steam after 12 months, then suddenly made it nut back in short order. The common thread between both games and not making their money at first is EPIC.. Deny it all you want, but being exclusive on Epic has stifled the sales growth of both games, if Epic paid for them or not. They didnt sell well due to being stuck on the bottomless pit of Epic.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by Irot Noot:

Its odd and telling that you mention how Control took 15 months to recoup its costs

Its odd that you cant read the words written in front of you. As I never said that. If you could properly read, what I said was that Control had its best sales 15 months after release. I never mentioned when it recouped costs.

You also stating the obvious. Any game that is available on more platforms should sell more. Duh.

I mean, you can twist words around all day if you want. Your argument still doesnt hold up in any capacity. Not making their money back at first? Did that actually matter though? No, it didnt. As the game still garnished a sequel and MP spinoff. With Remedy profiting from it that they were able to buy back the publishing rights and regain full control over the IP. So that right there proves your argument wrong and pointless.

Same thing with AW. Did it sell well at first. Not in MSFT eyes or the industry. Did they still manage to sell around 7+ million units. Sure did. Did it still get a sequel. Yep. So again, your argument doesnt hold up at all. As Remedy has proven to have good sales in the long run. So they can continue to do what they do.

But the haters like yourself cant have that and want them to fail because oh boo hoo, its a EGS exclusive. Not to mention Remedy's growth revenue for YoY is up over 56% since AW2 released. They doing just fine. Cry harder.

[Dosto]

The game was a massive flop at sales despite they're calling it "strong sales"... pretend to be shocked.

https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/alan-wake-2-budget-remedy-financials

I'm glad nobody is making deals with timmy tencent's dumpter fire anymore. This is probably the last one and failed.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by Dosto:

The game was a massive flop at sales despite they're calling it "strong sales"... pretend to be shocked.

https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/alan-wake-2-budget-remedy-financials

I'm glad nobody is making deals with timmy tencent's dumpter fire anymore. This is probably the last one and failed.

Have you not read anything above? Clearly not. You do realize that article is based on reports from early Feb right?

Massive flop? Since AW2 is Remedy's fastest selling game to date. With all their other games getting sequels/remakes with those sales. How is it a flop again?

Again, Remedy put up no money for the development and marketing of AW2. Already got paid to make it. As well as Epic Games being worth $32 Billion. No need to recoup costs really. Even though it will. As all there games have. Since this one is selling the best out of the gate. Its a def it will too.

[Dosto]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by Dosto:

The game was a massive flop at sales despite they're calling it "strong sales"... pretend to be shocked.

https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/alan-wake-2-budget-remedy-financials

I'm glad nobody is making deals with timmy tencent's dumpter fire anymore. This is probably the last one and failed.

Have you not read anything above? Clearly not. You do realize that article is based on reports from early Feb right?

Massive flop? Since AW2 is Remedy's fastest selling game to date. With all their other games getting sequels/remakes with those sales. How is it a flop again?

Again, Remedy put up no money for the development and marketing of AW2. Already got paid to make it. As well as Epic Games being worth $32 Billion. No need to recoup costs really. Even though it will. As all there games have. Since this one is selling the best out of the gate. Its a def it will too.

How do you know it sold well enough? theres no reports, they never made figure number of that dumpter fire launcher. The fastest game doens't means income. That why it hasn't recouped its budget.

Same case with AW remastered. both epic exclusives . lol It didn't sell well man, get over it.

[NeutronVortex]

Originally posted by Dosto:

How do you know it sold well enough? theres no reports...

Nonsense, where do you think these articles are getting their figures from? From Remedy themselves...

https://investors.remedygames.com/announcements/remedy-entertainment-plc-remedy-announces-sales-information-for-alan-wake-2/

And as that report is from the start of February, so the 1.3 million units sold figure being reported in these recent news articles is already 3 months old at this point(as animal said above) and they where selling roughly 300K units a month.

At that rate the total sales could be over 2 million+ at this point(or possibly right at if sales slowed to around 200K a month in the past 3 months). Are those numbers really that terrible for a game that's only been out 7 months? Anyway, the DLC isn't even out yet which will likely give them a short-term boost in sales at that time besides.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by NeutronVortex:

Originally posted by Dosto:

How do you know it sold well enough? theres no reports...

Nonsense, where do you think these articles are getting their figures from? From Remedy themselves...

https://investors.remedygames.com/announcements/remedy-entertainment-plc-remedy-announces-sales-information-for-alan-wake-2/

And as that report is from the start of February, so the 1.3 million units sold figure being reported in these recent news articles is already 3 months old at this point(as animal said above) and they where selling roughly 300K units a month.

At that rate the total sales could be over 2 million+ at this point(or possibly right at if sales slowed to around 200K a month in the past 3 months). Are those numbers really that terrible for a game that's only been out 7 months? Anyway, the DLC isn't even out yet which will likely give them a short-term boost in sales at that time besides.

These fanboys do not understand facts or logical. Just Epic hate and will hate on anything associated. Even though they're proven wrong time and time again. They still bicker and troll thinking their whining actually means something.

As by that response. You can clearly see how clueless they actually are. Saying there is no reports when there is. They just ignore the facts and keep trolling.

[Sgt Snoke Em]

Titanfall 2 also sold millions.

It was still considered a flop.

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Dosto:

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Have you not read anything above? Clearly not. You do realize that article is based on reports from early Feb right?

Massive flop? Since AW2 is Remedy's fastest selling game to date. With all their other games getting sequels/remakes with those sales. How is it a flop again?

Again, Remedy put up no money for the development and marketing of AW2. Already got paid to make it. As well as Epic Games being worth $32 Billion. No need to recoup costs really. Even though it will. As all there games have. Since this one is selling the best out of the gate. Its a def it will too.

How do you know it sold well enough? theres no reports, they never made figure number of that dumpter fire launcher. The fastest game doens't means income. That why it hasn't recouped its budget.

Same case with AW remastered. both epic exclusives . lol It didn't sell well man, get over it.

How do you know it didn't sell well enough when neither Remedy nor Epic has ever stated when they expected to start making a profit on the game? For all you know the expectation is it wouldn't be profitable just yet. Given Remedy's history of when their games did become profitable, I wouldnt doubt they don't expect profit until 9 to 12 months after release.

[Sgt Snoke Em]

Originally posted by WolfEisberg:

Originally posted by Dosto:

How do you know it sold well enough? theres no reports, they never made figure number of that dumpter fire launcher. The fastest game doens't means income. That why it hasn't recouped its budget.

Same case with AW remastered. both epic exclusives . lol It didn't sell well man, get over it.

How do you know it didn't sell well enough when neither Remedy nor Epic has ever stated when they expected to start making a profit on the game? For all you know the expectation is it wouldn't be profitable just yet. Given Remedy's history of when their games did become profitable, I wouldnt doubt they don't expect profit until 9 to 12 months after release.

Remedy said so.

https://youtu.be/LbEoyyS0WW4?si=O1jSZt8LlYtsw6eE

Call comes at 33:30.

With that language they used sounds like it hasn't made its money back.

You can stop lying when you like wolfy.

But you've been lying for about 5 years so why stop now eh?

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by animal_PLANET:

Originally posted by NeutronVortex:

Nonsense, where do you think these articles are getting their figures from? From Remedy themselves...

https://investors.remedygames.com/announcements/remedy-entertainment-plc-remedy-announces-sales-information-for-alan-wake-2/

And as that report is from the start of February, so the 1.3 million units sold figure being reported in these recent news articles is already 3 months old at this point(as animal said above) and they where selling roughly 300K units a month.

At that rate the total sales could be over 2 million+ at this point(or possibly right at if sales slowed to around 200K a month in the past 3 months). Are those numbers really that terrible for a game that's only been out 7 months? Anyway, the DLC isn't even out yet which will likely give them a short-term boost in sales at that time besides.

These fanboys do not understand facts or logical. Just Epic hate and will hate on anything associated. Even though they're proven wrong time and time again. They still bicker and troll thinking their whining actually means something.

As by that response. You can clearly see how clueless they actually are. Saying there is no reports when there is. They just ignore the facts and keep trolling.

If these people can provide a statement from Remedy or Epic saying they expected profit by February, then their arguments have merit. But that doesn't exist. So we can only go by what Remedy have said and by their own history. We know it's the fastest selling Remedy game in history, we also know they never been profitable with in 3 months of release. Though these Epic haters seem to be ignoring the fact the numbers/sales is all based on what it was like as of early February, with us having no idea what it has been like since after early February.

[Sgt Snoke Em]

Didn't see my comment did ya Wolfy?

How much does epic pay you?

[Steven]

We're locking this thread as it has devolved into non-productive argument. Thanks for your understanding.