Alan Wake

Alan Wake

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StraightEdgeJoe Nov 12, 2023 @ 9:51pm
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Alan Wake 2 Sucks!
I have it on PS5 and I plan to ask for a refund first thing tomorrow. This game is jump scare the video game. It's so cheap how Remedy keeps using the same flash images on screen really fast and cranks up the volume ''jump scare'' that I have seen on hundreds of Newgrounds flash games back in the early 2000's.

AW2 wants to be a survival horror game so bad, but doesn't understand what made Resident Evil 2 remake great. I'm playing on Normal mode and both character's shoe box (aka item boxs) are completely full of health items and ammo LOL FAIL!!!! Remedy made some creepy environments but do nothing with them. It's like they made the game and said "ohh ♥♥♥♥ we forgot to do anything to scare players, QUICK make some flashes appear on screen and have the audio really loud a hundred times.....problem solved!!!"

I will see characters constantly t-posing and Saga will get stuck on the smallest items. I once had to load a checkpoint to get unstuck from behind a bed. Even had a puzzle that was unwinnable until the latest patch. This game lacks polish and will kill immersion. When it comes to steam just avoid this turd because it's not worth your time.

Just go watch the Twin Peaks show instead. Sam Lake is a HACK, stealing ideas from Twin Peaks, and a movie called Darkness Falls. Just goes to show you that this man is a one hit wonder. The only good thing he wrote is Max Payne and I'm starting to wonder if he didn't copy his friend's ideas and took credit for that masterpiece.
Last edited by StraightEdgeJoe; Nov 12, 2023 @ 10:13pm
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Schackal Nov 24, 2023 @ 11:18am 
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AW2 is a decent game, though in every good aspect there is something terribly wrong with it (which have ruined the overall experience for me, and if I have known of these, I would have never bought the game, even though I'm a huge fan of Remedy since the first Max Payne game):

- the survival horror aspect is good, but the respawning enemies and bad inventory management (not to mention the very limited shoebox space...) makes it a chore to backtrack. Resident Evil games did this so much better, even the original ones.

- the graphics are really nice, the fog and rain effect, especially during the night time, and the street lights are quite pleasing, the colors and illumination are exquisite, but still I find it has unreasonable system requirements (RDR2 is a beautiful game which provides almost the same quality in graphics, but does it in an open world scenery, and with much lower demand in this aspect). Also, on a side note, the constant distortions, the blurring effect perpetually messing up your vision is very distracting and I dont really think the game benefits from it. It doesn't really add anything to the atmosphere and has a contradictory impact on the whole graphical fidelity.

- good story with some interesting twists, but then again, ends with a cliffhanger (I dont want to comment on the inclusion of Sweet Baby Inc., but lets just say: I'm not a fan, and never will be, wont be bowing down for your pandering. Let me remind you, this is one of the lines of Saga, the protagonist of the game called Alan Wake:
' Another white @sshole deciding what I get to do, how I get to do it. '
What an utter hogwash of a sh1tty racist character she is. Are Twitter/Reddit addicted activists are in charge of the dialogue writing? Stop lecturing people with your nonsensical woke ideologies, and leave gaming out of your appalling gender/race politics. And this is the best you can do? Cringe monologues? And you get money for this? Good grief...).

- challenging enough without being too difficult, a nice middle ground. But when you are forced to deal with 3-4 guys at the same time in forest areas, who are teleporting left and right and cant see anything because of the vegetation, your only chance is to spam dodge while listening to the sound ques of thrown hatches. And the game forces you to face these challenges, even though the shooting mechanics are not well equipped for that (rightfully so, since this is not Max Payne, you are not an action hero, in a survival horror game you are supposed to feel underpowered. But when the game combines this feeling with overwhelming amount of enemies to deal with simultaniously, that is questionable).

- very good atmosphere, with superb ambient music and sounds, BUT (and this is my biggest issue with it): the f.ckin' jumpscares. They are completeley out of place, and not fitting into the overall presentation of the game (long gone are the days, when Silent Hill 1-4 managed to scare the piss out of us without these very cheap attempts of jumpscares), and by the time you reach the nursing home, it becomes so frequent, it basically kills the games ambiance which it tried so hard to build up. Truly a let down.

- the end-game: oh boy, where to start. I really tried not to dislike this game, but unlike for example Control, where I have honestly enjoyed every single minute with it (first playthrough took me 60 hours), AW2 has really overstayed its welcome with its 30 hours, and by the end I grew so tired of the game, only finished it out of spite. The first time we had a chase sequence, okay fine, somewhat scary. Second time, meh, okay. Third time: come on guys, its wasn't really interesting in the first place. And by the end again running from Scratch in the Nursing Home, I just let out a sigh of desperation before turning off the game again for a couple of hours. I had to muster up my willpower to carry on with the game, and, you know, that is not a good sign. You are supposed to play games for entertainment, for fun. But AW2 was not fun at this point. But I do realize it's more on the preference side, so I'm not holding this part against the game.

- the bugs: ... I had bugs all over the place, flickering textures, memory leaking, map issues (after collecting all dolls the map showed the location of every doll, even though I have picked them all up, and writing on all of them were the "Father" figure, Words of Power marks remained on the map, even though I have collected them, etc etc.), but the worst was the Mind Place bug, which caused me quite some headache. I wasn't able to use Saga's flashlight to destroy the shadow orbs, restarted the game 4 times, tried everything, it pretty much was a game breaking bug, like half an hour before the end. So I had to watch ending on Youtube. Good job...? Not gonna lie, it left a bad impression. Especially because I've tried to collect all achievements, and only the ending achievement is missing now, but I cannot make myself reinstall the game to finish it, not knowing if the bug is still present.

Is this game a masterpiece? No, not by a long shot. Its a decent game, almost good, but as unfortunate it is, it has some very glaring issues and to be honest, the hype had a huge part in making this game a success. I really dont think that AW2 is a masterpiece, hell, in my opinion its not even Remedy's best game to begin with. It couldnt even hold Control's towel. Which is a pity, really, it had some shining moments (personally I loved the musical part and the mini Finnish movie bit in the cinema), and the facial animations are superb, I have never seen anything like this (for the most part, for the side characters, well, not so much...).

If you want to play a good survival horror game, go for RE2make, if you want it to be a bit more action oriented, Dead Space remaster or RE4, if you want to play with a game where the story is mysterious and convoluted, go for the original Silent Hill games or Evil Within. Again, AW2 is a decent game, but every aspect of it was done much much better in other games. I definitely won't be buying any DLCs for it, it was wasted money and time from my side, and I know it sounds harsh, again it's just an opinion, but nevertheless its better to just watch a walktrough of this game instead of playing it. Don't buy this game unless its on sale. There are only a handful of games, where I did not enjoy my time spending with, and finished it for the sole purpose of getting over with it. AW2 is sadly one of them. It did not deserv the praise it got during the Game Awards.
Last edited by Schackal; Dec 9, 2023 @ 1:52am
wasabi™ Nov 24, 2023 @ 1:43pm 
Yeah I picked it up on console and wasn't a fan of it, doubt i'll go back to it.
Doesn't really feel much like Alan Wake at all and tries to fool the audience into thinking it's smarter then it actually is.

Really would like to see Remedy get out of the slump it's currently in, might be an unpopular opinion but I wasn't the biggest fan of Control either but at least that had some interesting gameplay mechanics so mess around with. ALW2 is just devoid of everything imo.

Originally posted by lackesis:
The best thing AW2 made me do is replay AW1.
After 100% AW1 again, I found out how bad AW2's writing and gameplay was, How could they turn Zen into that!? The dive suit daddy completely gone.

Yeah the writing for AW2 is just all over the place, i'm sure there are many that are into that kind of stuff but it's just not for me. Also I was a really huge fan of the original game.

Might take your advice and replay AW1, it's been a few hours so probably overdue for one.
Last edited by wasabi™; Nov 24, 2023 @ 1:47pm
_APA [~sudo] Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by WolfEisberg:
Originally posted by Sarumoon:
and now they are banning for any criticisim.

welcome to a dictatorship. I will never buy this game, I don't support chinese dictator.

Yet you support Valve who run Steam like a dictatorship against their customers.
Yet you are here everyday haha there is not a day I don't see you here where you don't even own the Alan Wake on steam, why are you on Alan Wake forums when you don't own the game?

Sarumoon: criticism is not getting you banned, it's "someone" reporting your posts. Steam has a community guidelines, when someone reports the post, steam looks at it if any of the community guidelines were violated.
sajet1 Nov 25, 2023 @ 11:21am 
+1 Glad i "checked" AW2 before buy. Great graphic and thats all .Not for me . IMO : One of this time wasters designs (spending to much time to get "one cutsceen info" in menu simulator,+ junky evidence wall interface, pseudo open world areas with backtracking, boring exploration, annoying combat : more than should item dependent , weird dodge frames, constant offscreen/in my back hits, cant see sH$$^t camera work (very often), annoying oponents + not best checkpoints to reset encounters, not that great plot, a lot of bad game design decisions . I cant feel game flaw, its like a chore for me. Sad.
JD Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:03pm 
I was excited to play both games ... such a let down. I refunded both games due to boredom.
Specific Beef Nov 26, 2023 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by Ambrosius Costeau:
While I do think the writing is fantastic, saga anderson felt shoehorned into the game and sadly she was a Mary sue which really undermined the story.

You understand who Odin and Tor are, right? Didn't you clock her mother's name? They could barely say it much louder. If you understand what they are, then Saga being a granddaughter of the most powerful one of them means... Yeah.

There's another famous games character whose only flaws are that he neglected his child and ruined things for his family, but I don't see people complaining.
Last edited by Specific Beef; Nov 26, 2023 @ 4:44pm
Geek Ultra Nov 26, 2023 @ 11:38pm 
is it true that its woke? like i have no prob with a protagonist who is a person of color, but what part of AW2 is woke? im planning to buy it later, but maybe wont if its just propaganda the video game
Citizen Cook Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:00am 
I don’t think I like this game. I’m about 4 hrs in. Why does saga and the her partner accept the insanity of what is happening to them so easily? It feels so weird to me that they get attacked in a morgue by a dead man and find pages in a forest predicting their future actions but take it all in stride with barely a raised eyebrow.
It’s really jarring in such a realistic looking game. Where is the denial, the fear, the desire for a logical answer?
And I’m already tiered of backtracking through that damned forest!
Citizen Cook Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by StraightEdgeJoe:
I have it on PS5 and I plan to ask for a refund first thing tomorrow. This game is jump scare the video game. It's so cheap how Remedy keeps using the same flash images on screen really fast and cranks up the volume ''jump scare'' that I have seen on hundreds of Newgrounds flash games back in the early 2000's.

AW2 wants to be a survival horror game so bad, but doesn't understand what made Resident Evil 2 remake great. I'm playing on Normal mode and both character's shoe box (aka item boxs) are completely full of health items and ammo LOL FAIL!!!! Remedy made some creepy environments but do nothing with them. It's like they made the game and said "ohh ♥♥♥♥ we forgot to do anything to scare players, QUICK make some flashes appear on screen and have the audio really loud a hundred times.....problem solved!!!"

I will see characters constantly t-posing and Saga will get stuck on the smallest items. I once had to load a checkpoint to get unstuck from behind a bed. Even had a puzzle that was unwinnable until the latest patch. This game lacks polish and will kill immersion. When it comes to steam just avoid this turd because it's not worth your time.

Just go watch the Twin Peaks show instead. Sam Lake is a HACK, stealing ideas from Twin Peaks, and a movie called Darkness Falls. Just goes to show you that this man is a one hit wonder. The only good thing he wrote is Max Payne and I'm starting to wonder if he didn't copy his friend's ideas and took credit for that masterpiece.

Sony do not issue refunds
Salt Nov 27, 2023 @ 8:32am 
Just finished AW2, the issue i have with it is that, it feels so much more like control than alan wake and tbh i didnt really like control. Bringing in new characters into the story is not bad, but when the core gameplay is focused around FBI girl, why is it even called alan wake then? this could of been called CONTROL 2, easily. Its still a very good game, but its not really alan wake anymore.
Citizen Cook Nov 28, 2023 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Salt:
Just finished AW2, the issue i have with it is that, it feels so much more like control than alan wake and tbh i didnt really like control. Bringing in new characters into the story is not bad, but when the core gameplay is focused around FBI girl, why is it even called alan wake then? this could of been called CONTROL 2, easily. Its still a very good game, but its not really alan wake anymore.

I disliked Control as well. I rank Remedy games thusly:

1. Max Payne
2. Max Payne 2
3. Quantum Break
4. Alan Wake
5. Control
Sean8102 Nov 29, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
To each their own. Just beat it last night and it was a treat. Enjoyed it a ton.
_APA [~sudo] Nov 29, 2023 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by Sean8102:
To each their own. Just beat it last night and it was a treat. Enjoyed it a ton.
Did you dance on musicals?
DeadPhoenix Dec 1, 2023 @ 5:44pm 
Your refund will be denied. Since you downloaded the game.
Hobgoblin Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by StraightEdgeJoe:
I have it on PS5 and I plan to ask for a refund first thing tomorrow. This game is jump scare the video game. It's so cheap how Remedy keeps using the same flash images on screen really fast and cranks up the volume ''jump scare'' that I have seen on hundreds of Newgrounds flash games back in the early 2000's.

AW2 wants to be a survival horror game so bad, but doesn't understand what made Resident Evil 2 remake great. I'm playing on Normal mode and both character's shoe box (aka item boxs) are completely full of health items and ammo LOL FAIL!!!! Remedy made some creepy environments but do nothing with them. It's like they made the game and said "ohh ♥♥♥♥ we forgot to do anything to scare players, QUICK make some flashes appear on screen and have the audio really loud a hundred times.....problem solved!!!"

I will see characters constantly t-posing and Saga will get stuck on the smallest items. I once had to load a checkpoint to get unstuck from behind a bed. Even had a puzzle that was unwinnable until the latest patch. This game lacks polish and will kill immersion. When it comes to steam just avoid this turd because it's not worth your time.

Just go watch the Twin Peaks show instead. Sam Lake is a HACK, stealing ideas from Twin Peaks, and a movie called Darkness Falls. Just goes to show you that this man is a one hit wonder. The only good thing he wrote is Max Payne and I'm starting to wonder if he didn't copy his friend's ideas and took credit for that masterpiece.


The first one was over hyped. I played it on Xbox and it didn't feel "7 years of development" good. It was alright, but not as good as Silent Hill 2. I'm sitting back to see if AW2 goes on sale, one day, for 20 bucks or something. I'll try it then. In the meantime, I was curious and thought I'd check out how AW2 is doing on here, but it isn't even on Steam! Interesting marketing move, I'd say. With how unplayable it is for people it should be on here quick time though. Making unplayable (poorly optimized/ overly demanding) games is a good way to shoot yourself in the foot. Look at what happened Immortals of Aveum. It's actually a pretty decent game, but the nature of UE5 alienates probably 85% of the gaming community. Control? However? Is Remedy's masterpiece and I think they should just focus on that title.
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