I just met a Japanese Elf with a Brooklyn Accent - the Ham-fisted Diversity Ruins the Atmosphere

[DobbyBaby]

There are three separate things I’m noticing. One is that most of the characters talk like people today. The dialogue and reactions are modern. It really kills the verisimilitude for me.

Second, all the various races and cultures feel the same. Elves are just like dwarves who are just like halflings etc. It’s like being in NY City. Sure, people all might look different but in the end, everybody’s a New Yorker.

Third, there is no such thing as an orc with blond hair and blue eyes. There is no such thing as an East Asian High Elf or an African dwarf. These are all fantasy races, and the developer just slammed jammed our current culture’s obsession with identify politics right in there. I feel like I’m playing though an episode of The Handmaid’s Tale.

Larian really blew a chance to build an engrossing, atmospheric world. Instead it’s modernity with magic.

[Wokelander]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GrandMajora:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Omega001:

This is a DnD game.

DnD has bards trying to ♥♥♥♥ dragons,

Funnily enough, back in the ye olden times of D&D, Bards could also become the Dragon Disciple prestige class.

Which would imply that in addition to Sorcerers, they too had some trace of dragon blood in their ancestry.

Back then it was tied to spontaneous arcane spellcasting

[Wokelander]

Diposting pertama kali oleh GrandMajora:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Koala 4peace:

Wait, imma put the melatonine hat. Hope Oz don't mind...

"DnD is racist against atheist?! Larian has made DnD woke with this!!!"

Thanks to Ao giving them all a good smack upside the head with the Time of Troubles, the gods now depend on a constant supply of faith from mortals in order to sustain both their power and their life force.

If nobody worships a god, the god dies.

Myrkul came up with a 'scare them straight' tactic, by creating the Wall of the Faithless, where those who did not worship the gods would be bricked into after their deaths. I am not entirely sure on whether or not the soul's consciousness remains active in that state; but if it is, then that seems like a horrifyingly cruel way to force mortals into compliance.

I believe they're conscious but gradually are absorbed into the wall. And yes it's basically divine mobster methods, "worship, or else!"

[GrandMajora]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wokelander:

Back then it was tied to spontaneous arcane spellcasting

Yes, but the ability to spontaneously cast arcane spells was attributed to having a magical creature somewhere in your family tree, and Dragon Disciples were presented with the idea of harnessing the dormant potential within your draconic blood.

[Koala 4peace]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Night Foxx (She/her):

Diposting pertama kali oleh Koala 4peace:

Wait, imma put the melatonine hat. Hope Oz don't mind...

"DnD is racist against atheist?! Larian has made DnD woke with this!!!"

Pedantic point of order: Atheism in a world where it is known for an absolute fact that gods exist is impossible. Atheism is the lack of a BELIEF in any gods. It is not simply not worshiping one. Anyone who believes or knows that a god or gods exist is by definition not an atheist regardless whether they worship one.

This is true. Still warrant a gratuitous, uncalled and a completely hypocritical "NEEEEEERD" with a pointing finger.

[DobbyBaby]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Joe Cool:

It's also extremely weird seeing characters (especially goblins) with modern emo hairstyles that pretty much didn't exist 10-15 years ago, it totally kills any and all immersion. It's like the equivalent of playing a fantasy game and coming across a modern car.

Yeah I noticed the hair styes also. Another immersion buster.

[GrandMajora]

Vore everyone, for Daddy Yeenoghu!

Also, isn't Kara-Tur, the land that Yoshimo was from, supposed to be at least somewhat Japanese inspired? I mean, BG2 seemed to indicate that Katanas were rare outside of that region.

[seeker1]

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kara-Tur

The part of Kara-Tur most analogous to real-world Japan is probably the island nation of Kozakura.

Yoshimo was from Shou Lung. More analogous to real-world China.

You can find a katana in BG3, in Golbraith's House; he also has Abdel Adrian's shield.
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Katana

That's the only katana in the game, coded as a longsword technically. It is never stated to be as such, but since Golbraith knew Abdel Adrian (the canonical Bhaalspawn of BG2), that that was probably Yoshimo's katana.

In my headcanon, my Kara-Tur Ascendant Dragon monk Wuen Hung Lo had come to BGC from the land of Shou Lung, also. The last words his master had told him before coming to Faerun was "Patience, grasshopper."

[The Yeen Queen]

Hey, did OP ever tell us where he found this fabled Japanese elf with a Brooklyn accent?

[Lord Adorable]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Night Foxx (She/her):

Hey, did OP ever tell us where he found this fabled Japanese elf with a Brooklyn accent?

No. But I can see why.

Spoilers: It's because it dosn't exist.

[Evil-Rabbit]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Night Foxx (She/her):

Question.

Where are you seeing orcs in the game?

No, not half orcs. Orcs.

There's two fornicating in the shed in act 1. One is a very large female orc, and the other is a much smaller male orc. Going to town on it.

[Evil-Rabbit]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Jonnie:

There are three separate things I’m noticing. One is that most of the characters talk like people today. The dialogue and reactions are modern. It really kills the verisimilitude for me.

Second, all the various races and cultures feel the same. Elves are just like dwarves who are just like halflings etc. It’s like being in NY City. Sure, people all might look different but in the end, everybody’s a New Yorker.

Third, there is no such thing as an orc with blond hair and blue eyes. There is no such thing as an East Asian High Elf or an African dwarf. These are all fantasy races, and the developer just slammed jammed our current culture’s obsession with identify politics right in there. I feel like I’m playing though an episode of The Handmaid’s Tale.

Larian really blew a chance to build an engrossing, atmospheric world. Instead it’s modernity with magic.

totally agree. Like Amazon's lord of the rings. They really took a dump on the fantasy because they're all super woke.

The entire concept behind mythological creatures is their attributes, speech and behaviors.

In BG3. there's only two rules that are constant. Everyone wants to bang you, there are no compliments, or friendships, or bro's. You throw a dude a heal pot, and that is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ advance.

and of course 2. Dwarves arent scottish white midgets with bearded females. Elves who draw their power from the moon, and have pale skin that glows somewhat in moon light can now be african. and of course. Orcs arent green. They're blond with blue eyes and although slimey and disgusting can still manage to take 3 hours every morning to perm their man bun. I'm sorry... Body type 1 bun. *rolls eyes*

Yeah...They crapped on the lore.

[Lord Adorable]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Evil-Rabbit:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Night Foxx (She/her):

Question.

Where are you seeing orcs in the game?

No, not half orcs. Orcs.

There's two fornicating in the shed in act 1. One is a very large female orc, and the other is a much smaller male orc. Going to town on it.

Those are not Orcs.

Those are a Bugbear-a Goblinoid- and an Ogre, which is.. an Ogre.

[Evil-Rabbit]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lord Adorable:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Evil-Rabbit:

There's two fornicating in the shed in act 1. One is a very large female orc, and the other is a much smaller male orc. Going to town on it.

Those are not Orcs.

Those are a Bugbear-a Goblinoid- and an Ogre, which is.. an Ogre.

bug bear are hairy. that orc was clean shaved. and ogres arent green! This aint shrek!

You may be right, but they're orcs to me.

[Lord Adorable]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Evil-Rabbit:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lord Adorable:

Those are not Orcs.

Those are a Bugbear-a Goblinoid- and an Ogre, which is.. an Ogre.

bug bear are hairy. that orc was clean shaved. and ogres arent green! This aint shrek!

You may be right, but they're orcs to me.

That's like saying "Cats are dogs, in my opinion".

So no. They are still not Orcs. The Ogre isn't even green.

[seeker1]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Evil-Rabbit:

and of course 2. Dwarves arent scottish white midgets

Yep. This game TOTALLY nails it. THIS is how Dwarves should sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0