Monk/fighter multiclass and heavy armor?

[mishari26]

Hi all, I was messing with this to try and get my monk to wear heavy armor, so I gave him 1 level of fighter. so I'm lv3 monk, lv1 fighter, however when I wear heavy armor it still says I'm not proficient in it? am I missing something?

[Moffin Bovin]

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

[Moonbane]

You dont want to wear heavy armor on monks or barbarians.

[BrutalHonestGaming]

Multi classing doesn't work that way in this game and besides there both Fighting Classes so kinda of a moot point 😆

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

Absolute misinformation there.

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

Absolute misinformation there.

BG3 does this though.

[Moffin Bovin]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

Absolute misinformation there.

Go to withers. make a monk, then pick up fighter. tell me what your armour proficiency is.

then go back to withers and do it the other way around. Then check proficiency again.

[philosoraptorgames]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

Absolute misinformation there.

No, that's 100% correct. If you have the 5th Edition Player's Handbook, check page 164 (you may also want to read the previous page for context). If not, you can probably find another reputable reference on the 5th Edition ruleset that will tell you the same thing.

You and OP may be thinking of how multiclassing worked in 3.5 or earlier editions (including AD&D 2nd Edition, which BG 1 & 2 were based on). It's different in 5th Edition.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

You dont want to wear heavy armor on monks or barbarians.

You do as a Monk with the itemization in BG3.

[Niradin]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

fighters only get heavy armour proficiency at lvl 1.

if you take it at lvl 2 or later you only get medium armour prof.

Absolute misinformation there.

Multiclassing into fighter, as well as multiclassing into any other class, doesn't give you full proficiencies of that class. Warrior multiclass not giving you heavy armor is correct.

[VoiD]

tl;dr if you want to do this then pick lvl 1 fighter first, then add your monk levels later, you'll be able to use heavy armor.

idk if monks have any skills that require you to not use heavy armor tho, like barbarian's rage, so you'll have to pay attention to those kinds of things.

That being said, I heard str monk can be quite broken with a certain feat, but you could always make a dex build, using light armor, and just drink a giant str potion every day instead.

[solaris32]

You only inherit proficiencies from your first character level, so you'll have to respec.

Heavy armor monk is good if you dump dex, go strength with tavern brawler feat, and wear a shield with your main hand unarmed. You still want wisdom because there are items and abilities that buff unarmed based on wisdom. But you are missing out on movement abilities from being unarmored. So you're a hard hitting slow tank vs a speedy not as hard hitting or tough guy.

Also I would strongly consider 3 levels into rogue and going thief for the extra bonus action and movement actions that only require a bonus action. This does mean only 8 levels of monk but that's not a bad stopping point since I don't think resonating blast is all that good.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by solaris32:

You only inherit proficiencies from your first character level, so you'll have to respec.

Heavy armor monk is good if you dump dex, go strength with tavern brawler, and wear a shield with your main hand unarmed. You still want wisdom because there are items and abilities that buff unarmed based on wisdom. But you are missing out on movement abilities from being unarmored. So you're a hard hitting slow tank vs a speedy not as hard hitting or tough guy.

Also I would strongly consider 3 levels into rogue and going thief for the extra bonus action. This does mean only 8 levels of monk but that's not a bad stopping point since I don't think resonating blast is all that good.

I'd argue that you don't need to push Monk higher than 6.

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by Ackranome:

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Absolute misinformation there.

BG3 does this though.

I'm not sure. I seem to recall doing this and getting heavy armour proficiency. Maybe you're not mean to get it, but i seem to recall getting it.

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Originally posted by Ackranome:

BG3 does this though.

I'm not sure. I seem to recall doing this and getting heavy armour proficiency. Maybe you're not mean to get it, but i seem to recall getting it.

If you do Fighter first - you get it.

[Beast of War]

You can get high AC with high DEX, or with high class specific mulitipliers as well.

For example a Barbarian ( with item multipliers ) gets more AC when not having ANY armor at all ( i guess that is why the NPC ones are always half naked with a painted upper body ) and when raging that even goes up.

A rogue does equal or better with 10 AC specific Rogue gear ( no armor ) and maximum DEX and item multipliers then building him ( with feats you could have spend on DEX ) to accept medium armor.

And so on and so on.