Are Scrolls of Revivify (Raise Dead) too common?

[Solo Cat Collector]

The abundance of such items greatly reduces difficulty and risk-taking. You can use the scroll to revive fallen companions, use the skeleton dude to do it himself, or just load up an earlier save, which you can do at any moment, even while fighting.
What is the reasoning behind this? I've read this is to gather metrics about how players go through the game but I doubt that.
I want a challenging D&D adventure, where death lurks behind every corner and such items are rare, precious and expensive (as they should be).
Is there any mod out there that addresses this or is someone with modding experience planning to reduce the amount of such life-saving items on full release?
Thanks.

[Freak4Leeks]

well if we are to take an educated guess about what larian will do, i imagine they'll add a harder difficulty and an honor mode (if you squad wipe you start from the very beginning of the game) so that wipes out the easy game and save scumming. the abundance of SoR will be a problem we'll have to wait to see if it's resolved.

[brendan_in_china]

I think it's just Larian going easy on us during EA. Certainly there should be less in normal/harder settings.

[Harukage]

Well, you literally have a lich from an ancient temple of the original god of death in your camp. Ready to revive anyone you need. Having a scroll or too in your pocket is pale in comparison.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Well, you literally have a lich from an ancient temple of the original god of death in your camp. Ready to revive anyone you need. Having a scroll or too in your pocket is pale in comparison.

If you try to pickpocket him, you can see he has 3 scrolls of revivify in his inventory, along with 800 gold.

Me thinks the guy might be trying to scam us, by claiming it's his calling to revive people. ;-)

[Dremall]

Given it's a level three spell that we'll have access to at level 5 it's probably a non issue, granted that version requires it to be used within a minute of a person dying.

[Solo Cat Collector]

Originally posted by Dremall:

Given it's a level three spell that we'll have access to at level 5 it's probably a non issue, granted that version requires it to be used within a minute of a person dying.

I do not recall these scrolls having a time limit.
If I remember correctly, you can go to an entirely new area without being close to the corpse and still being able to revive any companion. It is very odd.
I know that in D&D you have like a day at most to revive anyone, right? I am not an expert.

[Quillithe]

I think they're likely to stay common for the sake of co-op.

Having a party member die for awhile is one thing, having your character dead for awhile in co-op is another.

Now, it's hard to say if this is good or not - personally I always just reloaded anyway when I couldn't revive characters right away in old BG, so I guess I don't mind.

[buttawise]

Larian said EA is easymode that it will get tougher. They haven't said anything specific though besides limiting itemization.

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by Somns:

Originally posted by Dremall:

Given it's a level three spell that we'll have access to at level 5 it's probably a non issue, granted that version requires it to be used within a minute of a person dying.

I do not recall these scrolls having a time limit.
If I remember correctly, you can go to an entirely new area without being close to the corpse and still being able to revive any companion. It is very odd.
I know that in D&D you have like a day at most to revive anyone, right? I am not an expert.

Depends heavily on the spell. The lowest level spell that can bring someone back from the dead is revivify (a level 3 spell) and it can only work on someone that has been dead for no more than one minute. The next spells are raise dead and reincarnate (both are level 5 spells) and both work on a person who has been dead for up to 10 days. Next we have resurrection (a 7th level spell) which works on a creature who has been dead for less than a century (and also has not died of old age - a note that the previous spells DO NOT INCLUDE so if you want that extra bit of time with great grandpa presumably raise dead can get you a bit more time). Then finally we have true resurrection (a 9th level spell) and it works on anyone who has died by any cause other than old age and has been dead for no longer than 200 years. So there is quite a bit of a range in the time you have to revive someone (depending heavily on how powerful you are of course).

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Originally posted by Somns:

I do not recall these scrolls having a time limit.
If I remember correctly, you can go to an entirely new area without being close to the corpse and still being able to revive any companion. It is very odd.
I know that in D&D you have like a day at most to revive anyone, right? I am not an expert.

Depends heavily on the spell. The lowest level spell that can bring someone back from the dead is revivify (a level 3 spell) and it can only work on someone that has been dead for no more than one minute. The next spells are raise dead and reincarnate (both are level 5 spells) and both work on a person who has been dead for up to 10 days. Next we have resurrection (a 7th level spell) which works on a creature who has been dead for less than a century (and also has not died of old age - a note that the previous spells DO NOT INCLUDE so if you want that extra bit of time with great grandpa presumably raise dead can get you a bit more time). Then finally we have true resurrection (a 9th level spell) and it works on anyone who has died by any cause other than old age and has been dead for no longer than 200 years. So there is quite a bit of a range in the time you have to revive someone (depending heavily on how powerful you are of course).

Do they enforce this in-game though?

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Depends heavily on the spell. The lowest level spell that can bring someone back from the dead is revivify (a level 3 spell) and it can only work on someone that has been dead for no more than one minute. The next spells are raise dead and reincarnate (both are level 5 spells) and both work on a person who has been dead for up to 10 days. Next we have resurrection (a 7th level spell) which works on a creature who has been dead for less than a century (and also has not died of old age - a note that the previous spells DO NOT INCLUDE so if you want that extra bit of time with great grandpa presumably raise dead can get you a bit more time). Then finally we have true resurrection (a 9th level spell) and it works on anyone who has died by any cause other than old age and has been dead for no longer than 200 years. So there is quite a bit of a range in the time you have to revive someone (depending heavily on how powerful you are of course).

Do they enforce this in-game though?

We do not know about the other spells because only the scroll is in the game, but BG3 doesn't track time to any real extent that we see so far. The only example I can think of is a downed (i.e., unconscious) character does make death save in real time mode. However, I was answering the other user's question about d&d not necessarily about BG3.

[Archnemesis]

To point out, Larian said revive scrolls and a few other things are more common due to it being EA and for play testing. The BG3 game will not have so many scrolls available and you'll have to be more conservative with them on official release.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Archnemesis:

To point out, Larian said revive scrolls and a few other things are more common due to it being EA and for play testing. The BG3 game will not have so many scrolls available and you'll have to be more conservative with them on official release.

In that case, I'll feel even less guilt about using cheese strategies for some of these ridiculously BS encounters.