As a woman these complaints about every man hitting on you are hilarious

[Roxigon]

Aside that the characters are playersexual and this happens no matter the gender (so complaining about them being gay is a moot point, if anything it would make them bisexual but I digress), as a woman men have hit on me all the time without any prompting, with me just being nice to them, or caring about them. Many men are open to casual sex, why not take their shot?

If anything Larian portrays the experience of a certain group of horny men rather realistically. They have tadpoles in their heads and might die, what do they got to lose? I am not judging these type of men, but every woman has experienced being hit on without expressing any kind of interest. And I am not talking about smooth subtle flirting to test the waters, but similar stuff to what you find in the game.

So, welcome to our world loves <3

PS: I am totally for options that make it easier to avoid being hit on, or put romance of, or making it easier to stay on the path of friendship without it getting awkward for people, or something like that. Friendships are important and it would only be an improvement to have this fleshed out or more clear! The more choice the better. Some people want romance, others not, I am all up for this freedom.

I just find it amusing that I don't really read complaints about women hitting on players without prompting and that men complaining here take such deep offense to being hit on by other men.

[opus132]

Men and women are different. What annoys a man is not the same as what annoys a woman, and by and large women do in fact prefer to be "hit" upon, and only complain when the guy who tries this isn't to their liking.

[Robotnik]

Originally posted by Gigantoad:

Originally posted by Beep:

Exactly. I thought Gale was a bro and he asked one night to talk to me in private. So I did thinking he just wanted to chat but the cut scene starts with you basically cuddling up next to him and him confessing his love for you. Like wtf It's so immersion breaking no where at any point had I showed any interest in him that way I was going for Karlach. At least add a sexual orientation choice at creation or something don't know why people get so angry about us wanting something like that? How tf that make anyone sexist or homophone?

I think people get angry because instead of a "romance icon" you are specifically asking for an "orientation icon"... meaning you don't mind the easy females but gay waaah get it out of my face. And that, I'm sorry not sorry to say, is homophobic. You don't want it then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ turn the guy down like you would in real life instead of asking for gays not to exist in your games.

That's a lot of wild assumptions there. Not to mention it makes zero sense for Gales character to romance anyone, it is not usual for people to be on totally platonic terms. In fact, women call the exact sort of man who breaks a platonic relationship and pursues sex out of nowhere a "creep". I suppose that would make you homophobic, sense you assume gay men pursuing lovers this way normal.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by opus132:

Men and women are different. What annoys a man is not the same as what annoys a woman, and by and large women do in fact prefer to be "hit" upon, and only complain when the guy who tries this isn't to their liking.

And how do you know this? Because the women I've spoken with (y'know, to get their opinions) prefer to be left alone in 99% of situations (while walking in public, working, shopping, and so on), regardless of who the guy is.

[ULTRA]

Interesting, I had no idea that women have to constantly endure flirtation from other women, probably because it's not true.

[mutantbeth]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by opus132:

Men and women are different. What annoys a man is not the same as what annoys a woman, and by and large women do in fact prefer to be "hit" upon, and only complain when the guy who tries this isn't to their liking.

And how do you know this? Because the women I've spoken with (y'know, to get their opinions) prefer to be left alone in 99% of situations (while walking in public, working, shopping, and so on), regardless of who the guy is.

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[SHRoronoaZoro]

I agree with the point you're making, but honestly, for me at least I just don't like the progression of the romance. Typically I would expect some kind of build-up to a romance path.

But in this, every major story event is "Do you wanna bang or nah?" from every character, at the same time. I don't like that they break character so the game can be like "Welp, we completed a quest... time to pick who you're having sex with".

Also, as a straight dude, I always appreciate the variety. I would be more upset if they didn't have gay options. Good story-telling doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about IRL social norms, especially with a fictional universe like this. I just don't like the pacing with the romance.

Obviously in the real world, women have to face constantly getting sexually harrassed, but I don't think that excuses lazy writing in that area. I mean look at Dragon Age or Mass Effect, there were always gay options, but every romance option was a path to be explored not an achievement.

On the political side of the argument though, obviously if men were constantly hit on they wouldn't be happy about it either. No one likes to be harassed, but because men are rarely hit on, people act like a man would enjoy it the harassment because they're a man. Harassment is harassment. It's just a sad fact that women and men face polar opposite problems with these situations.

[mutantbeth]

Originally posted by SHRoronoaZoro:

I agree with the point you're making, but honestly, for me at least I just don't like the progression of the romance. Typically I would expect some kind of build-up to a romance path.

But in this, every major story event is "Do you wanna bang or nah?" from every character, at the same time. I don't like that they break character so the game can be like "Welp, we completed a quest... time to pick who you're having sex with".

that doesnt happen.. its only astarion and laezel

[Lysamus]

I enjoy this topic both for helping to bring the woman experience to men who are maybe thinking about this subject for the first time and the wild responses from some of those (presumably) men to discredit the OP.

I particularly enjoyed the guy who copped to lusting after his friend's wife and the guy using the associative property to propose a claim that the OP wants men to experience rape.

[AnHonestSoul]

Originally posted by Roxigon:

Aside that the characters are playersexual and this happens no matter the gender (so complaining about them being gay is a moot point, if anything it would make them bisexual but I digress), as a woman men have hit on me all the time without any prompting, with me just being nice to them, or caring about them. Many men are open to casual sex, why not take their shot?

If anything Larian portrays the experience of a certain group of horny men rather realistically. They have tadpoles in their heads and might die, what do they got to lose? I am not judging these type of men, but every woman has experienced being hit on without expressing any kind of interest. And I am not talking about smooth subtle flirting to test the waters, but similar stuff to what you find in the game.

So, welcome to our world loves <3

PS: I am totally for options that make it easier to avoid being hit on, or put romance of, or making it easier to stay on the path of friendship without it getting awkward for people, or something like that. Friendships are important and it would only be an improvement to have this fleshed out or more clear! The more choice the better. Some people want romance, others not, I am all up for this freedom.

I just find it amusing that I don't really read complaints about women hitting on players without prompting and that men complaining here take such deep offense to being hit on by other men.

You have those that are in a relationship or married, or are religious even, for example. If you were in a relationship or married yourself, you might find your partner suddenly being attracted to pixels to be an insult to you and the love you feel for him or her. Of course not having to deal with anything romance related is prefered in these cases. Me and my wife belong to this group. Playing games together for fun. Being hit on so often is a problem for both of us.

Then there is people regardless of wether or not they have a RL partner, who just don't like a DnD game turning into a dating sim. Yes, its easy to avoid. But again, its just as easy to pick the wrong dialogue. Some options really are disguised flirt options.

I assume the majority of players actually use this games' romance for self-love. You know, the biological sort of self-love, not the bible kind. Thus many others simply get offended by the idea of removing it or having a toggle. Trolling, making fun of others, or even insulting. Its the delusional kind, the naive sort of people, lonely men and women and everything in between, who fail to think of others out of pure pixel fetish, selfishness or proud.

You mentioned you are a woman. Then you said "Many men are open to casual sex, why not take their shot?". And you wonder why you fail to understand men? Or why there is no women complaining on the internet? Well, one answer could be the friend invites you will get for saying the sentence above, while women actually try to not attract that sort of men you are talking about. Then, some women know how to show respect towards their partner. And last but not least, its not even a gender thing to begin with.

[duane]

hmmm, very good points.

[Lichlord9333]

Originally posted by SHRoronoaZoro:

I agree with the point you're making, but honestly, for me at least I just don't like the progression of the romance. Typically I would expect some kind of build-up to a romance path.

But in this, every major story event is "Do you wanna bang or nah?" from every character, at the same time. I don't like that they break character so the game can be like "Welp, we completed a quest... time to pick who you're having sex with".

Yeah in my co-op I fig I let my female drow get off on astarion and all of a sudden afterwards Shadowheart takes a hit on me lmao. This is even more ironic considering if you do the goblin raid, she actually says she doesn't want to be "Minthara's lefteovers". But somehow it's ok to be Astarions leftovers lol... It honestly feels very inconsistant and weird.

[opus132]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by opus132:

Men and women are different. What annoys a man is not the same as what annoys a woman, and by and large women do in fact prefer to be "hit" upon, and only complain when the guy who tries this isn't to their liking.

And how do you know this?

Because it's patently obvious, as obvious as the sun rising from the east. People today will say whatever gives them virtue points so it's irrelevant what women "told you". Deep down we all know what i'm saying is true. We've all see it happen hundreds of time before our eyes.

It's also a matter of personal experience. All the women i had a relation with never hit on me first, i was the one to approached them.

[moonlightavenger]

Oh great. Here is the other side of the spectrum.

[Robotnik]

Originally posted by AnHonestSoul:

You mentioned you are a woman. Then you said "Many men are open to casual sex, why not take their shot?". And you wonder why you fail to understand men? Or why there is no women complaining on the internet? Well, one answer could be the friend invites you will get for saying the sentence above, while women actually try to not attract that sort of men you are talking about. Then, some women know how to show respect towards their partner. And last but not least, its not even a gender thing to begin with.

The layers of irony that I missed here lmao. You're spot on on everything.

[Ngoc]

Originally posted by Lysamus:

I enjoy this topic both for helping to bring the woman experience to men who are maybe thinking about this subject for the first time and the wild responses from some of those (presumably) men to discredit the OP.

I particularly enjoyed the guy who copped to lusting after his friend's wife and the guy using the associative property to propose a claim that the OP wants men to experience rape.

You never know maybe if men could experience rape and how devastating is for your life they would stop raping woman or at least plan to have much much more jail time for it. It could not be such a bad idea. But I guess is easier to say “You woman get raped shut the ♥♥♥♥ up don't expect us to be in your shoes!” “Do you really want us to suffer as you do? Wtf! That's aweful you are a terrible person. What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥!