Dark Urge Story?

[GrandMajora]

Alright, so I got the scene with the bard and my butler appeared, but after that I can't find him anywhere in camp, and nothing seems to be triggering any new cutscenes regarding my origin.

I really, really don't want this playthrough to be like my Astarion one, where I somehow was doing something that skipped or ignored any of his vampire content until Act 3.

What do I have to do to get more scenes with my butler? Because if The Dark Urge turns out to be another disappointment, then I might just stick to using custom Tavs from now on.

I chose Origins specifically to explore their unique stories, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do to prompt their advancements.

[Morgian]

But it never started in my game. There should be more than a single trigger event, maybe better a time-based one.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Morgian:

But it never started in my game. There should be more than a single trigger event, maybe better a time-based one.

A lot of the events are hidden behind dialogue choices, or will have a narration tempting you to make a choice.

For example, saving the Tiefling child in the Grove. When she is threatened by the snake, there's a Dark Urge narration giving you a choice.

Or things like recruiting Gale. You can "fantasize" about hacking the hand off.

[Morgian]

Nope, there wasn't. All I have is the quest line titled Dark Urge, but no dialogue options or events.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Morgian:

Nope, there wasn't. All I have is the quest line titled Dark Urge, but no dialogue options or events.

So there wasn't an option when recruiting Gale from the portal about fantasizing about the hand?

[Morgian]

He said something like "take my hand". I honestly cannot remember the other options. But no matter, I know what to do next time.

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Morgian:

He said something like "take my hand". I honestly cannot remember the other options. But no matter, I know what to do next time.

Yeah, they aren't all easily noticeable, and I think that's the point. For example, just talking to the squirrel in the Druid Grove will automatically kill it without warning.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Ephemerant:

Yeah, they aren't all easily noticeable, and I think that's the point. For example, just talking to the squirrel in the Druid Grove will automatically kill it without warning.

Not sure why them being hard notice would be the point.

The point of the Dark Urge is that you are compelled to kill by some unknown impulse. If anything, the dialogue options should be much more obvious. Otherwise, you risk choosing options to resist it when you would otherwise want to give in.

Also, the devs stated in the last PFH, that the more you resist the urge, the more difficult it would be to continue doing so in the future. It's not a question of IF you fail, but WHEN.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by Ephemerant:

Originally posted by Morgian:

He said something like "take my hand". I honestly cannot remember the other options. But no matter, I know what to do next time.

Yeah, they aren't all easily noticeable, and I think that's the point. For example, just talking to the squirrel in the Druid Grove will automatically kill it without warning.

It won't if you can speak with animals.

[Morgian]

That squirrel did not die when I met it for the first time without speak with animals. I remember I failed my lore check and looked to lay my hands on speak with animals to see what the animals actually say. When I returned it made it clear this is its territory and I should better clear out. Or else.

[IRockFiction]

I saw somewhere that you can in fact "save" Alfira by knocking her out before the first dark urge murder. And instead some other character shows up instead. And she will be alive afterwards

[Ephemerant]

Originally posted by Morgian:

That squirrel did not die when I met it for the first time without speak with animals. I remember I failed my lore check and looked to lay my hands on speak with animals to see what the animals actually say. When I returned it made it clear this is its territory and I should better clear out. Or else.

Are you sure you started your character as Dark Urge?

[Morgian]

Yes. But I will try again on a second run and check the encounters mentioned above. Currently I could be the model of a paladin really :)

Something went wrong with this game, whatever that may be, so I chart this up as my good run. I am in act 3 now and exploring the city, which is pretty large. I am trying to find the temple of Bhaal, but I get constantly distracted. First by the Umberlee clerics, then the vampire quest, the reprise of the hag of the swamps, now by running accidentally into the hidden Shar temple...it is hard staying on track.

[GrandMajora]

I was just forced (heavily encouraged) to kill my lover (F.W.B), Lae'zel.

Sadly, the game did not give me the option to hide the body, and I was thus forced to kill everybody else in the camp as well in self defense.

Now I'm playing the game solo, because I took one look at the Hirelings that Larian grabbed off of Twitter, and decided "NOPE!"

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

Originally posted by zastcat:

cause massacres, hang out with bad guys, and generally do things that you'd expect from somebody whose only understanding of chaotic evil as an alignment is "lol stab everybody"

that or just stand around being brooding and conflicted during every dark urge dialogue option that comes up, generally speaking unless you're shooting first and asking questions when they're a corpse you'll inevitably run into *somebody* who will have some dialogue with 1 of your characters if you explore enough

Basically, Larian doesn't know D&D and their writing is middle school writing level.

[GrandMajora]

Well, I tried to kill the Nightsong, but she kept coming back to life, even though I was using the spear.

My butler made a comment about how I would keep chopping down the Moon Maiden's family tree, so I had assumed he wanted me to kill her. But after trying that multiple times and failing, I decided to just release her and she flew away.

Have I missed my chance, or do I have to turn on her in the battle against Ketheric?