Alternate to Astarion?

[Orchestration]

I only play good alignment and I need a Rogue in the party. Is there anyone who can replace him? He is great at DPS and removes all those pesky traps and opens all those locks but is personality is awful and he HATES every decision I make.

I am playing a Sorcerer and get on fine with my other 2 party members, Shadowheart and Karlach (I booted Lae'zel when I figured Karlach was a better match for me), and they seem to agree with most of my decisions.

[Moonbane]

Respec someone or take a hireling. But you are missing out on having Astarion, you can redeem him to be sorta good.

[Korgz]

In my good playthrough I respecced Wyll to a rogue and it worked fine.

[Orchestration]

I don't think he will listen to me, he doesn't like me.

[Xrystus]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Respec someone or take a hireling. But you are missing out on having Astarion, you can redeem him to be sorta good.

This. Respeccing is your friend, as it can change any companion into what you need. Beyond that, it is just a question of class and if you want to multiclass. We can help you with that.

[TamTroll]

BG3 doesn't really have alignments, just actions of varying moral qualities.

You can still have a completely good and friendly playthrough while still having Astarian. your actions might even help change him for the better.

[Rabidnid]

Yeah I am making a rogue/ranger at the moment and they are super solid. The hirling is also fine and useful for doing dire ♥♥♥♥ in act three where who you send might die.

[Laluzi]

You can always get a rogue hireling. Any high-dexterity character will work well for lockpicking, especially when you find a certain armor piece in early Act 2 that gives advantage on all dexterity-related skillchecks.

I wouldn't necessarily give up on Astarion, though, because in my experience he's surprisingly rewarding on a good playthrough. Without too many spoilers (duck away if you want none)... Astarion might be a chaotic evil ♥♥♥♥♥ and he's especially egregious in Act 1, but he responds very well to kindness aimed at him, and by the end of the game he'll thank you for opening his eyes and being patient with him. He'll take disapproval hits for being nice to random people, but those are generally -1s compared to the +5s you get for being supportive of him now and again, and on my first playthrough (where I didn't know enough to minmax and just did whatever felt right) I was comfortably around 80% approval with him despite being a goody two-shoes.

[katzenkrimis]

Use a hireling if you want a rogue.

Astarion abandoned me late in the game.

I was expecting him to disappear much sooner than that. It's predictable.

He's not good and can't be moulded into something good.

But rogues are necessary in every role-playing game.

[paladin181]

Astarion is fine. I have always killed his Twilight wanna be ass after he attacks me the second time.

[Zeks]

He's not good and can't be moulded into something good.

I dodged the ball by starting as Astarion it seems. Can't abandon me if he's the main character xD

[Laluzi]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

Use a hireling if you want a rogue.

Astarion abandoned me late in the game.

I was expecting him to disappear much sooner than that. It's predictable.

He's not good and can't be moulded into something good.

But rogues are necessary in every role-playing game.

If your only options were The Super Evil Decision and Astarion storming off forever, you either had a really bad relationship with him or you missed/skipped dialogue that would have opened up better options.

He's not a good person, but you actually can help him break away from that if you stick with it. Personally I thought that was one of the game's strongest points - the game gives you several companions with very messed-up outlooks and they can either become the horrible people they're on a trajectory to be or they can change, depending on whether you enable them or challenge them.

On that note, I'd encourage the OP not to give up on Lae'zel either. Half the party are problematic murderhobos at the start, but the characters do grow if you try to get to know them.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

But rogues are necessary in every role-playing game.

You don't need one in BG3.

[Remnant Melody]

Get creative with other classes or use a damn hireling if you're so hellbent on it. Sparing him of you is actually preferable.

[The1Kobra]

Hireling is one option. Respec a companion is another.

In my playthrough I actually made Karlach a Barbarian/Rogue, DEX Barbarian/Rogue is actually a very strong combo since reckless attack can work in conjunction with sneak attack without needing to flank or get combat advantage.

Start with a 16 DEX and CON, go Rapier/shield, and that build can tear through stuff just as well as a STR barbarian can and gets a very solid AC. Go berserker+thief So you can rage and reckless attack on the same turn too if you are so inclined.

[Hex]

You don't need a Rogue for anything, just switch Wylls starting profiencies to Sleight of Hand and pump his stats into Dex with respec and you're sorted.