Gith bard possible?

[Brian Sirith]

Lore wise how would one justify it? Its the first game where I can actually play a Gith and I think it would be fun but kinda set on playing a bard too. Any ideas? Not too good with lore.

Thanks :)

Edit: Clarification: Neutral Gith bard that doesn’t sing battle hymns to the dragon queen thing possible?

[Kryldost]

If a goblin can be a bard wht not a gith xD

[stimpatch]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Brian Sirith:

Thanks guys but… adventuring Gith bard ideas?

If you want ideas:

1 - Don't play recreational music. Save it exclusively for spell casting.

2 - Spam the absolute hell out of Vicious Mockery.

3 - Join the College of Valor, and dedicate yourself to immortalizing the stories of great warriors.

This is the most lore friendly way I can think of bringing a Githyanki Bard into the party.

This is headed in the right direction. I'd envision them as sort of a Gith variant of a Viking Skald - Sort of a Battle Bard/Poet. They would definitely know how to fight and be damn good at it. Think honeyed words laced with scorn and contempt for their foes, and absolute disdain for all but the mightiest of Gith warriors who have proven themselves in battle.

If you want to dig really deep on the RP, maybe you could justify it by imagining that the first Gith Bards came into existence when they figured out a way to break the Mind Flayer mental control over them by taking advantage of certain sounds or chants.

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by t-PointBlank-j:

Bards don't always play instruments, some are orators, or storytellers. A Githyanki Bard that keeps a record of his peoples stories and legends. If you're looking for character flavor.

Except Bards in this game explicitly play music to cast their spells. You even get your choice of instrument.

Flute

Hand Drum

Lyre

Lute

Violin

You can also Whistle. (no instrument equipped)

[Ghost]

Originally posted by ExcaliburV:

The only thing that really comes to mind is like... some kind of Material Plane enthusiast. Like at some point, the Gith ended up on the material plane and sampled some of the local culture and just completely fell in love with it, the music and poetry and such.

Just make your Gith a tourist, I guess is my answer. XD

Not sure if it's still the case, but Gith have to hatch on the Material Plane anyway since nothing ages in the Astral, and they were basically stuck there until they killed an Illithid and were allowed to return.

[Redrew]

I would say that Githyanki bard is a rare individual, but exists. Now, to me two versions come to mind. 1- A githyanki orfan/outcast/exiled, raised in BSG maybe. 2- A Githyanki march drummer/trumpeteer of their créche. Githyanki love war and militaristic chants. This rallies the troops and when out of combat, someone has to sing the songs of the Knights and their red dragons.

[sammy.k.jr]

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Originally posted by Brian Sirith:

Lore wise how would one justify it? Its the first game where I can actually play a Gith and I think it would be fun but kinda set on playing a bard too. Any ideas? Not too good with lore.

Thanks :)

Edit: Clarification: Neutral Gith bard that doesn’t sing battle hymns to the dragon queen thing possible?

Literally ever single culture in the the real world has had some form of music, song, and/or poetry. I cannot imagine any kind of society of intelligent beings without some kind of musical culture. Like even mind flayers make art the evokes strong emotions within mind flayers who view it, so it seems quite likely that they would also make some kind of music (though my quick search didn't find any obvious references to mind flayer music).

Islam has no music. It is not allowed.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by stimpatch:

This is headed in the right direction. I'd envision them as sort of a Gith variant of a Viking Skald

Speaking of vikings, would an Oath of Conquest Paladin be thematically appropriate for such a character?

[everybe2]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by stimpatch:

This is headed in the right direction. I'd envision them as sort of a Gith variant of a Viking Skald

Speaking of vikings, would an Oath of Conquest Paladin be thematically appropriate for such a character?

No, Paladins don`t steel and rape , Vikings does.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by everybe2:

No, Paladins don`t steel and rape , Vikings does.

Oath of Conquest has the phrase "douse the flames of hope" seared into their own arm.

It's literally an oath dedicated to the act of subjugating others.

[everybe2]

False paladins. :D

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by sammy.k.jr:

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Literally ever single culture in the the real world has had some form of music, song, and/or poetry. I cannot imagine any kind of society of intelligent beings without some kind of musical culture. Like even mind flayers make art the evokes strong emotions within mind flayers who view it, so it seems quite likely that they would also make some kind of music (though my quick search didn't find any obvious references to mind flayer music).

Islam has no music. It is not allowed.

That is entirely false. Many Muslims literally sing their prayers. Stop trying to spread false information and maybe fact check what your redneck uncle posted on Facebook before spouting your BS elsewhere.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by RealDealBreaker:

Originally posted by sammy.k.jr:

Islam has no music. It is not allowed.

That is entirely false. Many Muslims literally sing their prayers. Stop trying to spread false information and maybe fact check what your redneck uncle posted on Facebook before spouting your BS elsewhere.

That kinda depends on the group. Typically it's left up to people to decide themselves, usually with the caveat 'so long as it doesn't lead to drinking or sex'. Many of the hardline do ban it though.

[Brian Sirith]

Let’s keep the thread civil and to Gith bards or any other Gith or fantasy fun facts. No interest in rl discussions whatsoever.

And thanks for the info posted up to now guys. Been reading the responses and getting fun ideas :)

One thing I was wondering about was… apart from the culture is there anything different between Giths and Githzerai? Are they different races or just different groups? Could one imagine a character they create being either? Still thinking on the bard concept n how far one could take it. Of course I imagine one wouldn’t be able to use the racial lines for the Gith which might and miss out a bit.

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by Brian Sirith:

apart from the culture is there anything different between Giths and Githzerai?

You mean Githyanki and Githzerai. They are all the same race (i.e., species) though the original name of the race is canonically lost to time.

[Ghost]

While there are differences it seems pretty minor racially. Probably best to think of both Githzerai and Githyanki as subraces of Gith.

In terms of class/race concept works either way. In terms of culture, they are radically different, so it would really just come down to backstory. War drums vs harmonics / lofi beats to study to sort of thing.

Key note with the Githzerai is that they live on Limbo where belief and force of will shape reality. Also Lae'zel would probably try to kill you on sight.