Male Lolth Drow Clerics!?!

[ChentallyMallenged1]

Are impossible. Read Homeland by R. A. Salvatore to understand this. Please fix this.

[Trap Queen 85]

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:

"Female drow with blood ties to a noble house are molded and trained from birth to become priestesses of Lolth. The Spider Queen doesn't allow male drow to hold such positions" Page 127 of the Monster Manual 5th edition rule set

Oh and I'll raise the stakes with this. Page 121 Players Handbook 5th edition ruleset

"For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and travel to the surface"

So you could be a cleric but you most certainly would not be a male cleric of Lolth.

[Harukage]

There more dark Seldarine gods than just Lolth. And many of them ressurected not so long ago, many were killed by Lolth previously. So most of them do not really take kindly to Lolths order of things. Male drow clercis are their material.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

So you could be a cleric but you most certainly would not be a male cleric of Lolth.

In BG3, I made my male drow a cleric of Corellon, and the home brew I came up with him is that he was trying to earn redemption in the eyes of the Seldarine.

Also made him Light Domain. :-)

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

"Female drow with blood ties to a noble house are molded and trained from birth to become priestesses of Lolth. The Spider Queen doesn't allow male drow to hold such positions" Page 127 of the Monster Manual 5th edition rule set

Oh and I'll raise the stakes with this. Page 121 Players Handbook 5th edition ruleset

"For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and travel to the surface"

So you could be a cleric but you most certainly would not be a male cleric of Lolth.

That's not what that says though, that just says a male drow cleric is likely to be an adventuring player character.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Imagine if they ever make a dnd mmorpg. And the majority of drow are male clerics

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

I'm going to make a male Drow Clerc of Selune/Warlock (Fiend - Lolth is also a demon). I call this the 'Heretic'.

Just to piss people off.

[Harukage]

Originally posted by When the music ends...:

Imagine if they ever make a dnd mmorpg. And the majority of drow are male clerics

I will not be surprised at all. I still remember Warhammer AoR MMORPG where you could create male dark elf sorcerers who are somehow accepted by Malekith.
It will be just the same.

[Trap Queen 85]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

Oh and I'll raise the stakes with this. Page 121 Players Handbook 5th edition ruleset

"For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and travel to the surface"

So you could be a cleric but you most certainly would not be a male cleric of Lolth.

That's not what that says though, that just says a male drow cleric is likely to be an adventuring player character.

That's exactly what it says. Combined the two specifically state drow clerics don't exist. The monster manual not only says they don't exist but specifically only lists Priestess of Lolth as an option. And the PHB is stating that if a male drow wanted to be a cleric they could not which is one potential reason they may venture to the surface to seek a path to become a cleric instead.

It's times like these where common sense seems to be exceptionally rare.

Even if you assumed that Lolth wanted to sew discord and gave powers to a male, that male would be dead faster than you can say Lolth. And the only reason Lolth would allow a cleric to have powers is if they played a part in the machinations of the drow in the underdark. The moment they left those powers would be rescinded.

Reading comprehension.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Male Drow Clercs are canon.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Trap Queen 85:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

That's not what that says though, that just says a male drow cleric is likely to be an adventuring player character.

That's exactly what it says. Combined the two specifically state drow clerics don't exist. The monster manual not only says they don't exist but specifically only lists Priestess of Lolth as an option. And the PHB is stating that if a male drow wanted to be a cleric they could not which is one potential reason they may venture to the surface to seek a path to become a cleric instead.

It's times like these where common sense seems to be exceptionally rare.

Even if you assumed that Lolth wanted to sew discord and gave powers to a male, that male would be dead faster than you can say Lolth. And the only reason Lolth would allow a cleric to have powers is if they played a part in the machinations of the drow in the underdark. The moment they left those powers would be rescinded.

Reading comprehension.

Still not what it says.

[Trap Queen 85]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:

Male Drow Clercs are canon.

Except they aren't save for in the canon of R.A. Salvatore and that's already been explained by WotC themselves that his canon can and does exist outside of their own and vice versa.

[Harukage]

Yes, male drow clerics or Vhaeraun, or Selvetarm or whatever. But not Lolth.
Also there no male drow clerics of Eilistraee too btw. But for other reasons.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Male Drow Lolthite Clercs are now mandatory.

[KOHb]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:

Male Drow Lolthite Clercs are now mandatory.

Lolite Drow ladyboys with fox ears? :3

[pyton357ru]

I was strongly in "Lloth clergy is female, and that is how it is" camp, when I began reading this thread. Then, I started to think about it, and came to the conclusion, that things can be ... more flexible.

(WARNING! Headcanon, guesses and stretching things, until theyt almost break are incoming in numbers!)

Yes, there is ruling orthodox clergy, which is female, and would not have it any other way.

However. Any long-standing religion will have schisms. Fringe denominations. Heresies. Whatever else you call the "I read holy books, and their meaning is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT" situation. I see no reason for Lloth-faith to be different. So, some sort of non-orthodox branch of faith, who belive, that whoever can cajole Her Eight-Legged Majesty into sending spells her/his/their/whomever way gets the cleric title -- is, I think, at least beliveble.

And... Lloth is chaotic godess. So "But she would never..." argument is... a little too rigid. Preserving and, occasionaly even supporting, some sort of heretical (in a right way, of course) cult just to keep things from going stale. If noble houses are supposed to be sqabbling -- why clergy should not have an irritating thorn in their side too keep them from sitting too comfortably?

And I am not implying some of... stranger possibilities. Like Lloth taking all the clerical levels form a Matron Mother (who got way too confident in her station) and dumping them onto her nephew, just because he was hanging around.

So are male clerics of Lloth possible? I guess. Utterly improbable, hardly accepted by orthodoxes, yes. But not impossible.