Bardlock 5/7 or Bardcerer 9/3

[Tictactucrac]

Bard would be college of swords, warlock Great old one/pact of the blade, sorcerer draconic bloodline but not sure which ancestry would be most beneficial. Could also be 10/2 with sorcerer I'm not sure. I think bard 10 is overrated but I also think i'm overrating sorcerer 3

For a neutral evil playthrough

Opinions appreciated, going to sleep so will reply later

Thanks

[GrandMajora]

Any of the FIRE elemental dragons would be the best option. You are most likely to encounter enemies who try to use FIRE against you, than any other elemental type, so having resistance to it will prove a big help.

[Panda]

Bard >>> Warlock, so can’t be overrated, lvl 10 bards also have magical secrets to use Cleric and Druid spells.

For what purpose are you trying to build a Tav?
I suppose 2 handed melee bard inside of darkness?
If so - 9-3/8-4/6-6 are the only options for you depends on number of feats.

You can pact 1 weapon, remember it, so no dual wielding using charisma as a damage for both weapons, I see no reason to use a shield inside of the darkness, so 2handed is the only option.

Pure warlock btw is also fine, 1 charisma from Ethel + ASI, great weapon master feat, sentinel feat, use something long like a spear/halberd - free win unless enemy can see in the darkness or can spam aoe attack - Grimm for example.

If no melee pure bard and sorcerer are just better then warlock.
If EB build - use sorcerer and warlock, 2-10 is fine.

[FunkyMonkey]

Right off the bat, the big diffenece that I see is that Bard/Bladelock is more melee oriented and Bard/Sorcerer is a ranged spell caster. Or at least how I would play them, that is. And for Bard/Sorcerer multiclass I would go with Lore bard, honestly, and start with Sorcerer to get CON saving throw proficiency. For Draconic ancestry, I might look at the one that gives Armor of Agathys spell, it's a really nice spell that scales through the whole game.

Evil doesn't matter much or classic alignments in general don't matter in this game. Your actions do and you can lose out on some good gear for CHA casters (like Bards, Warlocks and Sorcerers) if you go with more evil options. Nothing that would make your build bad, but still, you would lose out one some optimized gear.

One more thing, if you want to go with Sorcerer/Bard, I would highly recommend picking up both Shield and Mage armor as a Sorcerer. Bards don't have either of those spells and bad defenses in general, so those two spells will boost your survivability by a lot.

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Bardlock 5/7 or Bardcerer 9/3
Bard would be college of swords, warlock Great old one/pact of the blade, sorcerer draconic bloodline but not sure which ancestry would be most beneficial. Could also be 10/2 with sorcerer I'm not sure. I think bard 10 is overrated but I also think i'm overrating sorcerer 3

For a neutral evil playthrough

Opinions appreciated, going to sleep so will reply later

Thanks

Draconic Red.

That put aside, I am not sure what you are after with that build. Especially College of Swords + Sorcerer. What gameplay are you aiming for?

[Tictactucrac]

That put aside, I am not sure what you are after with that build. Especially College of Swords + Sorcerer. What gameplay are you aiming for?

I want a main caster with strong crowd control/manipulation, but I also want the extra weapon attack hence why I need at least swords bard 6 or blade warlock 5.

RP wise I wanna use companions as bait then just finish off fights by myself while companions do whatever to survive, and potentially end the adventure alone since companions will most likely die either from combat or dialogue options.

Don't really care about min maxing or being the absolute best at what I do I mostly don't wanna miss out on fun features from the classes I pick.

Any of the FIRE elemental dragons would be the best option. You are most likely to encounter enemies who try to use FIRE against you, than any other elemental type, so having resistance to it will prove a big help.

I understand fire is by far the best defensively, but what would you pick if you only considered offense ?

For what purpose are you trying to build a Tav?
I suppose 2 handed melee bard inside of darkness?

Not necessarily, if I go the bardlock route I would definitely take devil's sight but not as a main strategy, I would still use my character as a caster until left with no other choice than going melee

I'm human by the way, i strongly considered playing a drow but I wanted to play a male this time, and an evil male bard lolth drow didn't make much sense to me considering male drows are essentially submissive cucks.

Pure warlock btw is also fine, 1 charisma from Ethel + ASI, great weapon master feat, sentinel feat

I will need resilient or warcaster feat because I have 8 constitution lol