Please remove the arrow of many targets from honor mode

[FLY paladin]

It’s basically cheat the game.

[phero c]

OR JUST DO NOT USE IT.

[Emilia Tempest]

You can nuke people with Magic Missile, hell you can take down Raphael in a single turn with two level 6 casts (get the free one with a staff) via a speed potion. Just make sure to slap him with someone that deals radiant damage or else he cancels your first missile
I think we dont have to worry about the Arrow of Many Targets :P
(there are a lot of other builds of similar strenght or even stronger, like you can even summon like 10 flying ghouls and stunlock literally anyone, which those have like 80HP each)

[Revan619]

it is weird how many fun and interesting builds they nerfed out of the game but left in practically unlimited exploding barrels and arrow of many shots to put the game on easy mode

[GriffinPilgrim]

It's a nice little one-use item but it's hardly a cheat.

[Popsicles]

F that - One arrow of many targets wipes the entire pack of brain monsters in the Ketheric battle. It's my goto first move for Astarion.

If you want to talk about OP arrows - then I would say the Smokepowder arrows or even Ice arrows are more OP. I was able to keep Gortash on his ass just because he kept slipping on the ice when losing his dex save. He didn't get one attack or spell off. :)

[Revan619]

I think it is especially weird certain class interactions are disabled on honour mode but not the other difficulties yet you still have game breaking items on honour mode

https://youtu.be/YS59KAJOXmk?si=IJR2t7hpd5y9Y8Nf

https://youtu.be/FrxntVyLfrY?si=aN_CtGbj-APqNlTI

Yet they removed options like this for that mode

https://youtu.be/891wAvVbnzo?si=JNpwPNyGt_8LD0sx

[FLY paladin]

Originally posted by Emilia Tempest:

You can nuke people with Magic Missile, hell you can take down Raphael in a single turn with two level 6 casts (get the free one with a staff) via a speed potion. Just make sure to slap him with someone that deals radiant damage or else he cancels your first missile
I think we dont have to worry about the Arrow of Many Targets :P
(there are a lot of other builds of similar strenght or even stronger, like you can even summon like 10 flying ghouls and stunlock literally anyone, which those have like 80HP each)

Multi arrow can crit multiple targets when the first target is guaranteed crits. It’s obviously a bug it can kill almost everything in one turn, not just single target.

[FLY paladin]

Now multi arrows are must have items in solo honor mode now, just letting y’all know, people are abusing this item in the honor mode and make videos of it.

[TaKo]

main issue with it is damage riders not being appropriately halved, which is, afaic, a bug that they seem to struggle with stomping

[FLY paladin]

I would appreciate if someone could reach to Larian to let devs know, thanks !

[Estevan Valladares]

I wonder what is the concept of "cheating" people use to talk such crap.

There is an exercise we do in law school about "legality" and "applicability" that besides showing some of the hypocrisy of some people, also shows the concept of "cheating" in a more "see how this is stupid" light:

"In a society that values the teaching of a God, when human rights and divine teaching clash, which they supplant with the other ?"

While some people might say "oh, but what if I dont belive in God". The question is not about what you do, or what you think is right. The question is about what "they" supplant.

This question is not about God things, or human law, but the nature of hierarchy through meaning.

Another aspect that shows the problem is:
"Should a man not care about what his woman does, she consorting carnally with another man constitute wrong doing ? How can you justify this assertion without imposing an external code of conduct."

And I am not saying this regarding this OP only. There is so much around these forums that calls for "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥". "Cheating", "Hacking", "Exploiting", "Cheese", the accusations fly, but their substance is laughable at best.

[TaKo]

yap yap yap

[LordNibbler]

"Players actually use useful items to win in game!"
"Developers refuse to patch fun out of their game!"

What a groundbreaking discovery, OP, truly amazing! And only several months after it became known! Such a smartie! What comes next, I ask? What awesome discoveries will you bring us in the future?

"Players turning their monitors on, simply cheating at game since they now can see what's going on!"?

The funniest thing is that you not only think you made an incredible discovery but that you somehow truly believe this is new and Larian doesn't know about it - or even funnier - think that this is not made on purpose.

Like already said - if you don't want it then don't use it. But no, you ride on this ridiculous crusade of self-righteousness, claiming that only because think it should not exist no one has the right to use it. A RANDOM ITEM IN A F'NG GAME, nothing more. Way to make yourself farcical.

[FLY paladin]

Originally posted by LordNibbler:

"Players actually use useful items to win in game!"
"Developers refuse to patch fun out of their game!"

What a groundbreaking discovery, OP, truly amazing! And only several months after it became known! Such a smartie! What comes next, I ask? What awesome discoveries will you bring us in the future?

"Players turning their monitors on, simply cheating at game since they now can see what's going on!"?

The funniest thing is that you not only think you made an incredible discovery but that you somehow truly believe this is new and Larian doesn't know about it - or even funnier - think that this is not made on purpose.

Like already said - if you don't want it then don't use it. But no, you ride on this ridiculous crusade of self-righteousness, claiming that only because think it should not exist no one has the right to use it. A RANDOM ITEM IN A F'NG GAME, nothing more. Way to make yourself farcical.

You can have fun in any of non honor mode. And that’s not for the honor mode made for. It could be fun but not game breaking because the game bugs and mechanics.

[FLY paladin]

Originally posted by FLY paladin:

Originally posted by LordNibbler:

"Players actually use useful items to win in game!"
"Developers refuse to patch fun out of their game!"

What a groundbreaking discovery, OP, truly amazing! And only several months after it became known! Such a smartie! What comes next, I ask? What awesome discoveries will you bring us in the future?

"Players turning their monitors on, simply cheating at game since they now can see what's going on!"?

The funniest thing is that you not only think you made an incredible discovery but that you somehow truly believe this is new and Larian doesn't know about it - or even funnier - think that this is not made on purpose.

Like already said - if you don't want it then don't use it. But no, you ride on this ridiculous crusade of self-righteousness, claiming that only because think it should not exist no one has the right to use it. A RANDOM ITEM IN A F'NG GAME, nothing more. Way to make yourself farcical.

You can have fun in any of non honor mode. And that’s not for the honor mode made for. It could be fun but not game breaking because the game bugs and mechanics.

By your logic, they shouldn’t have nerfed Lockladin or haste in honor mode as well, it’s hell lot of fun