Aasimar on cracks

[kanaka71]

So, I have noticed something.... It seems that after the Nightsong has been found, some how some way, everyone thinks to identify Aasimar or reskin Aasimar as being cracked up. DId no one actually get the story line? She is all cracked up because they kept cutting crap off her to replace on people; i.e. the wings used for that Fist traitor.... Aasimar are not cracked up beings - where are all the mods with Aasimar being normal halfbreeds?

[brendan_in_china]

In dialogue you learn that apparently Balthazar had removed her tongue previously. She doesn't hold much of a grudge against him, quite magnanimous of her really.

I took her cracks to allude to her being porcelain-perfect originally, not having mortal physiology, and her scarred soul now reflected on her physical being.

[Millstone85]

The issue, I think, is that there is no agreed alternative.

Aasimar are not supposed to have wings either, except as brief intangible once-a-day manifestations after they reach level 3. That's also an Aylin thing, possibly linked to her particular background as the immortal daughter of a goddess.

What, then, is the appearance of a normal aasimar? AFAIU it looks just like a human, not even with pointy ears or any other such small deviation. But that sure wouldn't help a mod get popular.

Whereas the cracked look... I think it really works, even outside of Aylin's circumstances. You can justify it as a lesser version of an angel's statuesque look.

[Jaeleth]

Originally posted by kanaka71:

So, I have noticed something.... It seems that after the Nightsong has been found, some how some way, everyone thinks to identify Aasimar or reskin Aasimar as being cracked up. DId no one actually get the story line? She is all cracked up because they kept cutting crap off her to replace on people; i.e. the wings used for that Fist traitor.... Aasimar are not cracked up beings - where are all the mods with Aasimar being normal halfbreeds?

Aasimar are, often, and in simplistic way to put it... nutcases... She plays into that role perfectly...

[jait]

That's because she's a Deva.

This is a game filled with Tieflings. You see any with wings? Any that regenerate and provide immortality? Can summon full plate, make God Pact Proclamations (Shart's weapon), etc..etc..

Tieflings are the exact same as Aasimar. One is from above, the other below. He-She is a Deva, and some writer went absolutely bonkers writing it's story. Seems pretty obvious in fact.

[brendan_in_china]

It makes more sense her being more deva than aasimar. She even gets 3 deva sisters if you deliver her to Larroakan per the contract.

Def a Larian thing.

[GrandMajora]

The fact she never heals her cracks is odd, when she's presumably immortal and has regenerated from lethal wounds countless times over her many years of imprisonment.

Plus, she's the daughter of Selune herself, which should theoretically put her on a similar power scale to The Dark Urge.

[brendan_in_china]

Stylistic choice over narrative. 'It looks cool.'

[Millstone85]

Originally posted by brendan_in_china:

Stylistic choice over narrative. 'It looks cool.'

It really does.

Originally posted by jait:

This is a game filled with Tieflings. You see any with wings? Any that regenerate and provide immortality? Can summon full plate, make God Pact Proclamations (Shart's weapon), etc..etc..

The game also has a surprising number of cambions, who are pretty much tieflings with wings, agelessness and actual power to make fiendish pacts and such.

I think BG3 writers may have wanted Aylin to be the celestial version of a cambion. Except that D&D has no such thing, AFAIK. Quite the jarring empty spot, I agree. But BG3 writers did it anyway and called her an aasimar. Just my guess.

[seandeven]

Originally posted by Millstone85:

I think BG3 writers may have wanted Aylin to be the celestial version of a cambion. Except that D&D has no such thing, AFAIK. Quite the jarring empty spot, I agree. But BG3 writers did it anyway and called her an aasimar. Just my guess.

With the choice being Aasimar or some other celestial

Aasimar being planetouched but still humanoid.
I have to agree. Aylin is a heavenly cambion.... Not a playable charater.


My guess is Deva, Planetars, and Solars were a divine lawful good step too far for the narrative.

[EricHVela]

Meh. The whole linked soul-cage thing throws a wrench in the works.

Data miners found stuff that showed she was going to be different, something that would be more appropriate for an actual Aasimar, but she became a defacto Deva while remaining an Aasimar in name for the whole immortality soul cage thing without re-recording certain lines. Given how much seemed to have been re-recorded since the early days, it must've been quite late before they settled on the Deva description, or they just didn't want to bother.

[TaKo]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Data miners found stuff that showed she was going to be different, something that would be more appropriate for an actual Aasimar

no? she was going to be COMPLETELY different and nothing that would require her to be an aasimar, she was going to be a cleric of shar who was captured by ketheric and turned into 'the nightsong' and would desire freedom from both ketheric and shar

we dont know if she was still going to be his source of immortality but he seemingly blamed her for isobel's death which would explain him imprisoning and torturing her, and we do know that even at this point in development she and isobel were romantically involved

i think its safe to assume that the whole aasimar thing is entirely tied to her reworked story as a pseudo-deva daughter of selune used as a source of immortality

[baticeers]

Maybe Aylin is from "normal" Aasimar ancestry, like her father was a regular aasimar who had a relationship with the moon goddess and that's how Aylin was born... yeah, that's my best headcanon patch for why they call her an aasimar when she's clearly "the opposite of a cambion" and not "the opposite of a tiefling" LOL

[Яeplicant]

Originally posted by TaKo:

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Data miners found stuff that showed she was going to be different, something that would be more appropriate for an actual Aasimar

no? she was going to be COMPLETELY different and nothing that would require her to be an aasimar, she was going to be a cleric of shar who was captured by ketheric and turned into 'the nightsong' and would desire freedom from both ketheric and shar

we dont know if she was still going to be his source of immortality but he seemingly blamed her for isobel's death which would explain him imprisoning and torturing her, and we do know that even at this point in development she and isobel were romantically involved

i think its safe to assume that the whole aasimar thing is entirely tied to her reworked story as a pseudo-deva daughter of selune used as a source of immortality

Just gonna leave that here: https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Aylin/Cut_content

[brendan_in_china]

That's an interesting read. Current implementation seems more coherent, though original might've been more interesting.

[DDkiki]

The more I see how things were planned before and remember bits from EA the more I become sad about how game turned out on release...many of rewrites looks so mediocre.