I wish we could fix Wyll

[ᚱᚢᛏᛝᚴ ᚴᚢᛦᚢᚨ]

It's something I've been disappointed about since release. I want Wyll to be able to go back to his old form again. I don't hate the devil form, he looks good either way, but the principle of it is just frustrating.
He gets physically deformed for doing the moral right thing even if it goes against Mizora's contract. A rule broken, a price paid, I get it. But you *never* get the chance to fix him? To seek out options to revert him back to his human form? Mizora says 'there's some magic even I can't undo' but in you mean to tell me that in all of faerun there's no way to restore him to his original form? He's stuck with his unjust punishment *forever*? I don't like it, and I don't get it. It was one of the first things I looked into when I completed my first run of the game, whether or not I missed a way for Wyll to be fixed. I don't understand why it has to be permanent.
In a game of DnD, I feel like this would be one of the priorities of a party, trying to find a way to reverse their friend's terrible misfortune at the hands of his old cambion master. Right?

[Hidden Gunman]

Faerun doesnt have angle grinders...

[zero]

bad things happen to good people, i personally would say it is an interesting thing that we cant just go get Mcguffin#3 to resolve the issue.

i can see in an actual game having a plot point to help the character out, but i feel "make him go back to his normal looks" will always play second fiddle to "we have a bomb in our heads"

like as far as punishment goes, he loses functionally nothing, his health is fine, he didn't lose years off his life, or any powers, he got punished by changing race, which is a big old nothing in terms of punishments.

he could have lost his soul over this if she didn't want him as her pawn going forward.

[Moonlight Knight]

This is just how it came across to me, so feel free to disregard, but to me it felt like an allegory for disfigurement, and with that read in mind I actually kind of appreciated that there wasn't a magic fix for it that made it go completely away as a problem. Sometimes there's a lot of value in a story about learning to live with something unpleasant that we nonetheless have to accept as a part of us, whether it's a disability, disfigurement, mental illness, or what have you.

[lordmilier]

I think he looks cool AF with those horns so I do not feel bad for him not to mention he would blend in better if he ends up hunting demons in Avernus. You could always kill Karlach and then he wont have cool horns.

[Occasum_Solis]

I wish Wyll wasnt such a boring, lame character ... old Wyll was badass - now he is kinda soy

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by The_Guy:

I wish Wyll wasnt such a boring, lame character ... old Wyll was badass - now he is kinda soy

What was old Wyll like?

[Lord Adorable]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

Originally posted by The_Guy:

I wish Wyll wasnt such a boring, lame character ... old Wyll was badass - now he is kinda soy

What was old Wyll like?

Pretty much the same as he is now, but he was also prone to being more impulsive & angry. Bloodthirsty even. He was also ruled by his emotions which made him a major liability.

So in truth, he wasn't "better" unless one conciders a constant state of unrestrained, seething rage & hatred to be a good thing.

[seeker1]

Spoilers?

I find it interesting that if he does become Grand Duke Ravengard, that people are willing to accept him despite the horns. He does suggest it will be a challenge, but with his father vouching for him it should go smoother. It's interesting that breaking his pact with Mizora doesn't end her curse on him, nor does any other method (like remove curse or something more powerful). There IS a COSMETIC mod to remove the horns and give him back his old look, but from a 'gameplay' point of view everyone still 'thinks' he has horns.

[Orion Invictus]

I can fix him.

[Occasum_Solis]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

Originally posted by The_Guy:

I wish Wyll wasnt such a boring, lame character ... old Wyll was badass - now he is kinda soy

What was old Wyll like?

Quote from BG3 Wiki: "In Early Access, he struggled with a brutal side and with living up to the title of the Blade of Frontiers, and had a particular hatred of goblins. His pact with Mizora was made due to his desire for vengeance after being attacked by goblins and losing his eye to one of them."

However this is imo a very superficial description for details read https://gamerant.com/baldurs-gate-3-wyll/ on how they changed Wyll.

Early-Access Wyll was just better.

[Cinemax]

Wouldn't he just... never get broken in the first place if you let him kill Karlach?

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by Cinemax:

Wouldn't he just... never get broken in the first place if you let him kill Karlach?

I mean, sure, if you can live with yourself after that.

[Brian_the_Brute]

Fix Wyll:

run this in a script extender window

Osi.RemoveTransforms("S_Player_Wyll_c774d764-4a17-48dc-b470-32ace9ce447d")

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by ᚱᚢᛏᛝᚴ ᚴᚢᛦᚢᚨ:

He gets physically deformed for doing the moral right thing even if it goes against Mizora's contract. A rule broken, a price paid, I get it. But you *never* get the chance to fix him? To seek out options to revert him back to his human form?

Selling your soul to a devil and then failing to live up to your end of the bargain has unpleasant consequences.

Who would have thought?

Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:

Originally posted by Cinemax:

Wouldn't he just... never get broken in the first place if you let him kill Karlach?

I mean, sure, if you can live with yourself after that.

I certainly can.

Karlach is a DM-PC, which is made evident when you play her as your avatar, and learn that she breaks the 4th wall by interacting with the player as if we are a disembodied voice in her head.

[[TG] zac]

Honestly I wouldn't mind it so much if his devil form actually had the innate devil powers its supposed to.