SCI FI CRPGS like BG3?

[AsdruPR]

looking for recommendations

[KRON]

Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader fits, I think

[Zero]

Publicado originalmente por seeker1:

You know what there is a lack of? There is no Star Trek CRPG. It's strange, there IS a TTRPG, there IS an MMO, there are many titles that are space-strategy combat, down to even assembling a crew of officers, but it mostly comes down to assigning roles on your ship.

It would be amazing to play the captain of a starship, and pick a crew of 3-5 for away missions, beam down ... pick your team as always based on skills, do you want your medical officer, science officer, engineer, red security crewshirt who dies right away (LOL).

I know there's the temptation to make the available crew from the cast of all the various shows and movies, but they'd probably save money just by making your available crew generic Starfleet (saves a lot on VA). Of course, they could do quick cameos of such folks.

Not saying Larian should or would do it - I just would love to see it.

BTW, Wasteland is set in the near future (2087), Fallout a bit more distant 2296. Though the tech of Fallout is retro-futuristic. The thing about post-apocalyptic sci-fi is the nuclear apocalypse has often set technology back or made existing tech no longer functional. Like lack of electricity.

If not Trek, I would love just a great generic space exploration CRPG. What I hope somebody would do that Bethesda didn't (again whether or not it's Larian) is --
a) make it a TRUE CRPG (less Mass Effect, more Rogue Trader like)
b) have the player have companions and interactions with alien civilizations (a la Mass Effect, that was good)
c) feature robots and androids that are more interesting than the ones in Starfield (like the droids in KOTOR)
d) yes have customizable spaceships and good space combat (the space combat in Starfield DOES look good)
e) most importantly, make planets with interesting stuff on them to explore (alien ruins, etc.) not just procedural generated blankscapes

away team tried that, it was ♥♥♥♥.

[Яeplicant]

Publicado originalmente por seeker1:

You know what there is a lack of? There is no Star Trek CRPG. It's strange, there IS a TTRPG, there IS an MMO, there are many titles that are space-strategy combat, down to even assembling a crew of officers, but it mostly comes down to assigning roles on your ship.

It would be amazing to play the captain of a starship, and pick a crew of 3-5 for away missions, beam down ... pick your team as always based on skills, do you want your medical officer, science officer, engineer, red security crewshirt who dies right away (LOL).

I know there's the temptation to make the available crew from the cast of all the various shows and movies, but they'd probably save money just by making your available crew generic Starfleet (saves a lot on VA). Of course, they could do quick cameos of such folks.

Not saying Larian should or would do it - I just would love to see it.

BTW, Wasteland is set in the near future (2087), Fallout a bit more distant 2296. Though the tech of Fallout is retro-futuristic. The thing about post-apocalyptic sci-fi is the nuclear apocalypse has often set technology back or made existing tech no longer functional. Like lack of electricity.

If not Trek, I would love just a great generic space exploration CRPG. What I hope somebody would do that Bethesda didn't (again whether or not it's Larian) is --
a) make it a TRUE CRPG (less Mass Effect, more Rogue Trader like)
b) have the player have companions and interactions with alien civilizations (a la Mass Effect, that was good)
c) feature robots and androids that are more interesting than the ones in Starfield (like the droids in KOTOR)
d) yes have customizable spaceships and good space combat (the space combat in Starfield DOES look good)
e) most importantly, make planets with interesting stuff on them to explore (alien ruins, etc.) not just procedural generated blankscapes

A Star Trek CRPG would be something interesting, that's for sure... and now I'd want one set in the Dominion War.

I wouldn't mind a Whale's Voyage* remake or alike too but that's never going to happen.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN9hB9jdJ_E | Character Creation
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U2bBDVAXNo | Actual gameplay

[Quillithe]

I still think a Star Trek CRPG should work really well - just imagine something like Starflight but leaning a bit more modern CRPG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQLbgNGz6s

Or like the Traveller CRPG but...I've heard that wasn't great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnHLUefOu8E

I think the key would be keeping it a bit unusual - party based squad ground combat should probably NOT be the core gameplay mechanic if it wants to feel at all Star Trekish

[lordmarsh]

I wouldn't have minded a good Star Gate Rpg either.
I know it's not as popular as Wars or Trek, but hey, I like what I like.

[VDRSK]

if you mean in terms of quality, there isn't a CRPG that compares to BG3 let alone a sci-fi one, although I am hearing rumours that the next project (the smaller one not the one that will dwarf BG3) is a sci-fi, so maybe we'll have one soon enough.

But I highly recommended colony ship, if it weren't for BG3 that would have been my goty, the depressing, oppressive and bleak atmosphere was a major part for me, it also gave me aniara vibes which is one of my favourite films.

The prospect of being born on the ship and dying on the ship never seeing either planet is cool setting.

Also don't know if it counts but underrail is also a joy.

[[TG] zac]

Publicado originalmente por lordmarsh:

I wouldn't have minded a good Star Gate Rpg either.
I know it's not as popular as Wars or Trek, but hey, I like what I like.

Its not an RPG but stargate actually got a turn based isometric game a year or so ago if I remember right.

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

Publicado originalmente por lordmarsh:

I wouldn't have minded a good Star Gate Rpg either.
I know it's not as popular as Wars or Trek, but hey, I like what I like.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but while I wasn't a big fan of the earlier Stargates, Stargate Universe is among the most gripping and engrossing sci-fi television I've ever seen in my life (largely carried by Robert Carlyle's usual great performance imo.) I'd love a game set in that particular part of the Stargate universe, especially since it felt unresolved and got canned prematurely imo.

[Vox Maximus]

Publicado originalmente por VDRSK:

if you mean in terms of quality, there isn't a CRPG that compares to BG3 let alone a sci-fi one, although I am hearing rumours that the next project (the smaller one not the one that will dwarf BG3) is a sci-fi, so maybe we'll have one soon enough.

But I highly recommended colony ship, if it weren't for BG3 that would have been my goty, the depressing, oppressive and bleak atmosphere was a major part for me, it also gave me aniara vibes which is one of my favourite films.

The prospect of being born on the ship and dying on the ship never seeing either planet is cool setting.

Also don't know if it counts but underrail is also a joy.

There are definitely a few CRPGs that can be compared with BG3: Planescape Torment, Fallout 1 and 2, for example. They are masterpieces from the same league as BG3.

[Quillithe]

Publicado originalmente por Vox Maximus:

Publicado originalmente por VDRSK:

if you mean in terms of quality, there isn't a CRPG that compares to BG3 let alone a sci-fi one, although I am hearing rumours that the next project (the smaller one not the one that will dwarf BG3) is a sci-fi, so maybe we'll have one soon enough.

But I highly recommended colony ship, if it weren't for BG3 that would have been my goty, the depressing, oppressive and bleak atmosphere was a major part for me, it also gave me aniara vibes which is one of my favourite films.

The prospect of being born on the ship and dying on the ship never seeing either planet is cool setting.

Also don't know if it counts but underrail is also a joy.

There are definitely a few CRPGs that can be compared with BG3: Planescape Torment, Fallout 1 and 2, for example. They are masterpieces from the same league as BG3.

The thing I'd note that sets BG 3 apart a bit is that although those games can compete (or do better) in terms of writing, characters, setting, etc - BG 3 stands out by having combat that actually isn't terrible.

Sorry, but Fallout combat is not particularly great. Mostly you can get in range and attack. Maybe an aimed shot of questionable value to spice things up, and that's pretty much it.

Also of course for a lot of people the production value of BG 3 makes a difference.

[Vox Maximus]

Publicado originalmente por Quillithe:

Publicado originalmente por Vox Maximus:

There are definitely a few CRPGs that can be compared with BG3: Planescape Torment, Fallout 1 and 2, for example. They are masterpieces from the same league as BG3.

The thing I'd note that sets BG 3 apart a bit is that although those games can compete (or do better) in terms of writing, characters, setting, etc - BG 3 stands out by having combat that actually isn't terrible.

Sorry, but Fallout combat is not particularly great. Mostly you can get in range and attack. Maybe an aimed shot of questionable value to spice things up, and that's pretty much it.

Also of course for a lot of people the production value of BG 3 makes a difference.

Well, combat is better in BG3, but it's not something that we haven't seen. DoS 1/2 are probably on par in terms of combat and there are definite similarities in how environment and elements can be used to get advantage...
For me personally combat is not the most important thing in CRPG. Planescape Torment for me is still #1 altho combat there is very simplistic and definitely not the main focus of the game...

[Jivebot]

Publicado originalmente por AsdruPR:

looking for recommendations

There aren't many RPGs of ANY genre quite as large in scope and scale as BG3, or with the level of reactivity and polish. Mind you, i'm not blind to BG3's flaws. But I'm not blind to it's strengths either.

Now if you just want Sci-Fi RPGs in general, there's already been some good ones offered. I'm going to assume you want to stick to CRPGs and Tactical RPGs, and don't want things like Fallout 3/NV/4 or MAss Effect.

So here's some of my suggestions.
Colony Ship
Encased: A Sci Fi Post Apocalyptic RPG(Yes that's all part of the title, lol)
Fallout 1 and 2. and Fallout Tactics.
Wasteland 2 and Wasteland 3. I guess maybe Wasteland 1 if you're hardcore about it but that's an old game and it shows. It's not really necessary for the sequels anyway. The first game in the series was light on story and character. Everything you need to know is revealed over the course of the sequel. And fun fact, this is the series that was the spiritual predecessor for Fallout. So if you start thinking "Hey! They're copying Fallout!" then check yourself. Fallout was copying Wasteland.

There's others I could recommend but I don't think they could be considered CRPGs in the Way Baldurs Gate is. But in case you're interested, i'll throw out some lesser known games in the genre i've enjoyed...

Elex 1 and Elex 2. Sort of a Jankier lower budget take on Skyrim/Fallout-style gameplay, world exploring, and faction alignments. Straddles the genre line a bit between Sci Fi and Fantasy, but mostly Sci Fi i think.

Cyberknight Flashpoint - Sort of a XCOM-style game with MUCH heavier empasis on stealth mechanics. Also has some of the most engaged, friendly Devs i've ever seen. Still in Early Access but VERY frequently updated.

Robocop: Rogue City. "Dead or alive, you are coming with me." Nuff said.

[alanc9]

Publicado originalmente por Vox Maximus:

For me personally combat is not the most important thing in CRPG. Planescape Torment for me is still #1 altho combat there is very simplistic and definitely not the main focus of the game...

Maybe not the most important thing. But in a game where a lot of the playing time is combat, I definitely prefer that the combat not be bad.

[Terran Ghost]

I don't know if there is a sci-fi game that can be directly compared to BG3. Each one I can think of deviates from BG3's formula significantly in some way.

In lieu of that I would recommend the Mass Effect series, Fallout: New Vegas, The Outer Worlds, and Knight of the Old republic 1 & 2.

[CloudKira]

Starfield?