Baldur's Gate 3

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Need help in underdark
so just went to the underdark still level 4, i picked up 2 bombs that can blow the rubble to free that drow but the fight with him is too tough, i googled that i can side with the elder, went to him but he didnt like me and was blabering some nonsence i barely understood. game was fine untill this forge part. i have to search google guides every 2 minutes. can someone explain how to get that elder on my side ?
also an extra question is gale that weak and gets his health gone almost instantly in a fight because he still low level and doesnt wear heavier armor ?
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Jeronimosss Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:57am 
Normally you just talk to the guy and he suggests to team up. I'm not sure what could lock you out of this. I suggest you try to understand "the nonsense" he's saying.
アンジェル Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by Saras:
Need help in underdark
so just went to the underdark still level 4, i picked up 2 bombs that can blow the rubble to free that drow but the fight with him is too tough, i googled that i can side with the elder, went to him but he didnt like me and was blabering some nonsence i barely understood. game was fine untill this forge part. i have to search google guides every 2 minutes. can someone explain how to get that elder on my side ?
also an extra question is gale that weak and gets his health gone almost instantly in a fight because he still low level and doesnt wear heavier armor ?

You are using Gale wrong.
76561199371186784 Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by Jeronimosss:
Normally you just talk to the guy and he suggests to team up. I'm not sure what could lock you out of this. I suggest you try to understand "the nonsense" he's saying.
forgot to mention i am playing a good charather. yeah i will try to figure him out, but why did the game not tell me i needed him in the first place ? is this underdark part frustrating for more people or its just me :/
76561199371186784 Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
Originally posted by Saras:
Need help in underdark
so just went to the underdark still level 4, i picked up 2 bombs that can blow the rubble to free that drow but the fight with him is too tough, i googled that i can side with the elder, went to him but he didnt like me and was blabering some nonsence i barely understood. game was fine untill this forge part. i have to search google guides every 2 minutes. can someone explain how to get that elder on my side ?
also an extra question is gale that weak and gets his health gone almost instantly in a fight because he still low level and doesnt wear heavier armor ?

You are using Gale wrong.
please explain :D
アンジェル Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Saras:
Originally posted by Jeronimosss:
Normally you just talk to the guy and he suggests to team up. I'm not sure what could lock you out of this. I suggest you try to understand "the nonsense" he's saying.
forgot to mention i am playing a good charather. yeah i will try to figure him out, but why did the game not tell me i needed him in the first place ? is this underdark part frustrating for more people or its just me :/

Just you.
GrandMajora Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by Saras:
so just went to the underdark still level 4, i picked up 2 bombs that can blow the rubble to free that drow but the fight with him is too tough, i googled that i can side with the elder, went to him but he didnt like me and was blabering some nonsence i barely understood. game was fine untill this forge part. i have to search google guides every 2 minutes. can someone explain how to get that elder on my side ?
also an extra question is gale that weak and gets his health gone almost instantly in a fight because he still low level and doesnt wear heavier armor ?

Not sure which elder you're talking about, but you can convince one of the Duergar to stage a revolt against Nere and the captain. It doesn't turn all the Duergar to your side, but enough of them to make the fight a little more even.

I would also suggest you prioritize going after the mind benders or whatever they're called. They can charm / mind control your party to attack each other, making the fight even more difficult.

Also, try to avoid killing Nere with attacks that can damage the corpse (burning, freezing, acid, poison, est). As if the body is too heavily damaged, you won't be able to collect his head and turn in the quest to the mychonids.

Wizards are glass cannons. They can dish out massive amounts of damage, but they go down fast once they start taking damage.

Unlike in previous editions of D&D, this one does not have Arcane Spell Failure penalty from wearing armor that you are proficient in. If you picked up an armor proficiency feat for Gale such as Light or Medium, then he can wear those without affecting his spell casting abilities.

If he doesn't have that, however, you might cast Mage Armor, which lasts until a long rest.
Jeronimosss Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Saras:
forgot to mention i am playing a good charather. yeah i will try to figure him out, but why did the game not tell me i needed him in the first place ? is this underdark part frustrating for more people or its just me :/

Well, I heard some people didn't like the location at all - to the point they abandoned the game (I know 1 person personally), but it's more due to the atmosphere, afaik.
The game won't tell you about optional things - to make your life easier you need to talk to optional characters. I'd say talk to every yellow dot on your map.

P.S. I'd suggest you go back and level up, but you don't have to fight Nere anyways. You can skip this fight if you'd like (let him die).
Last edited by Jeronimosss; Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:06pm
nod for kiss Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
when you first enter the grymforge, talk with elder brithvar and you have to convince him that you are not a true soul, otherwise he wont help you with nere.
also level 4 not good for underdark, few fights maybe tough for you to beat.
Anima Mundi Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:06pm 
You really need to try understand what the NPC says, Nere usually asks you to kill the Druegar slavers. You can chose to side with him, or side against him instead. But because he used the tadpole telepathic connection, the Druegars don't know about his betrayal, so if you go against him, you're likely need to fight them too
The other approach to make the encounter easier is to talk to one of the slavers and instigate rebellion before clearing up the rubble. That way they will help against Nere too

About Gale, he is a Wizard with no Armor proficiency. If you want him to be less squishy the options would be
- Going into Abjuration school for Damage absortion. Abjur Wizards can basically negate a lot of damage, but you are still very early and weak at level 4.
- Multiclass into something that gives you Armor proficiencies, but once again, lvl 4 is still too early

I never went all the way to the end of Grimforge at only lvl 4. It sounds like a difficult battle that one. It also sounds llike you may not have completed the whole Goblins and Druid Grove quest.
No reason to read game walkthroughs, you'll take more enjoyement if you go in blind. But pay attention to the quests and don't skip whole areas
Last edited by Anima Mundi; Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:07pm
victorvnv Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:07pm 
I just slaughter everyone before I blow the cave. But I am always lvl 5+ at that point , it really isn’t a lvl 4 fight
76561199371186784 Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Anima Mundi:
You really need to try understand what the NPC says, Nere usually asks you to kill the Druegar slavers. You can chose to side with him, or side against him instead. But because he used the tadpole telepathic connection, the Druegars don't know about his betrayal, so if you go against him, you're likely need to fight them too
The other approach to make the encounter easier is to talk to one of the slavers and instigate rebellion before clearing up the rubble. That way they will help against Nere too

About Gale, he is a Wizard with no Armor proficiency. If you want him to be less squishy the options would be
- Going into Abjuration school for Damage absortion. Abjur Wizards can basically negate a lot of damage, but you are still very early and weak at level 4.
- Multiclass into something that gives you Armor proficiencies, but once again, lvl 4 is still too early

I never went all the way to the end of Grimforge at only lvl 4. It sounds like a difficult battle that one. It also sounds llike you may not have completed the whole Goblins and Druid Grove quest.
No reason to read game walkthroughs, you'll take more enjoyement if you go in blind. But pay attention to the quests and don't skip whole areas
i completed the grove questline , killed all 3 goblin leaders and saved the whole grove, i even defeated the hag, left her alive got +1 attribute point and managed to save the pregnant girl too. however i didnt do wylls questline. is leve really too low or should i go and get leveled to 5
Anima Mundi Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:15pm 
I would assume at that point you'd be lvl 5.
There's also the quests and battles you can do in the underdark BEFORE going through the lake to grymforge.
Either way, you can just solve this Rubble encounter in different ways. Or like someone suggested after a couple long rests, Nere will die inside from the poison
Last edited by Anima Mundi; Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:16pm
76561199371186784 Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Anima Mundi:
I would assume at that point you'd be lvl 5.
There's also the quests and battles you can do in the underdark BEFORE going through the lake to grymforge.
Either way, you can just solve this Rubble encounter in different ways. Or like someone suggested after a couple long rests, Nere will die inside from the poison
yeah those angry dark dwarfs asked me to find a slaver and his boots but i thought it was an evil choice so i just killed them... ok im reloading back to where i saved the grove and do some more side quests i guess
GrandMajora Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Saras:
yeah those angry dark dwarfs asked me to find a slaver and his boots but i thought it was an evil choice so i just killed them... ok im reloading back to where i saved the grove and do some more side quests i guess

It IS an evil choice.

Duergar are an evil race, if you couldn't tell by the fact they enslaved the gnomes, and were threatening to beat the hell out of them with canes for not working hard enough.
Mike Garrison Dec 2, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by victorvnv:
I just slaughter everyone before I blow the cave. But I am always lvl 5+ at that point , it really isn’t a lvl 4 fight
This is one of the main problems OP is facing. The fight is really pretty tough even at level 5 or 6. At 4 it would be a nightmare.

I have done it many times, and never turned any of the druegar to my side before the fight. It's not "necessary", so that's why the game doesn't tell you that you have to do it.

The fight is much, much easier if you kill off the druegar in small groups before the fight, so you don't have to fight them all at once. But remember that you can't long rest, so you have to balance killing them off with not using up all your spells and abilities before the main fight.

Also, I recommend starting the fight against the druegar *before* rescuing Nere, so that way you don't have to fight Nere and the druegar together.
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Date Posted: Dec 2, 2023 @ 11:52am
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