Can no longer quick kill Cazador...thanks devs.

[Krystal]

One of the more annoying end game boss fights just became even more annoying, it was already hard enough to get him into a position to knock him off to begin with but now, the entire act is pointless as he'll just turn into mist and float back onto solid ground if shoved off... I beat him the legit way mind you but only because i couldn't get him close to a ledge and shove him off.

[Mike Garrison]

I just wish that my characters with fly abilities were similarly immune to chasms. They should be.

[Яeplicant]

Originally posted by YariMurai:

Originally posted by deathsia:

If shoving enemies off ledges was cheating, the devs would have patched it out already, so nice try on that one.

in what universe does shoving a full-fledged vampire off a cliff actually kill them?

In one, where they suffer from dementia and forget how to turn to either a bat or fog.

[L3wt]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

I just wish that my characters with fly abilities were similarly immune to chasms. They should be.

Yeah they messed up big time here. Their previous game made you immune to ground surfaces when flying. I dunno how their brain fell out on this one.

[♠.brT]

Cazador's fight isn't that difficult, especially if you are willing to savescum a little bit to figure it out a good strategy in dealing with him.

[!Slothboy93!]

Originally posted by L3wt:

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

I just wish that my characters with fly abilities were similarly immune to chasms. They should be.

Yeah they messed up big time here. Their previous game made you immune to ground surfaces when flying. I dunno how their brain fell out on this one.

It really depends on a lot of different factors. For example do you have a flying speed all the time or do you only have it when you cast the fly spell or drink the fly potion? If you have to cast the fly spell do you have enough time to do so with an action before you fall to the ground (tbh this would be a waste anyway if you have feather fall). It isn't as simple as Cazador can fly and I can have the ability to fly so I should have the same perk.

[Foxtrot39]

Ask your fighter to throw a backpack full of barrels and reverse pickpocket that lvl 6 ice bomb orb into him before engaging the fight with a fireball

[schenn]

"Sunbeam" spell. Use the Blood of Lathandar mace which has the sunbeam spell.

[hirn78]

You can still cheese the fight by sneaking up to Cazador, casting daylight on him, and watching him slowly burn to death without combat.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Sistalis:

Originally posted by Smakit:

I was big dumb and never even used the hammer. =P As for Caz, just pop on some sunlight/daylight whatever it's called on your melee guy and whack em. I don't even think he had more than 1 or 2 turns (granted it was one of the later places I went, so I was already Lvl 12).

Careful Daylight spell ruins the cutsceen and you can no long rescue the Gur kids. I beat Cazador the legit way and then couldn't save the kids. I saw online, the Daylight spell makes the nice(er) vampires run.

I had to reload a save, rest in the attic and kill Cazador a 2nd time ( Easier without his allies) then the cutsceen trigered.

I expect this only applies if you cast daylight on one of your items. If you cast it on the ground in the Cazador fight, no such issues ensue.

[invalid ******* name]

Before I went into that fight I handed out minor elemental summon scrolls to my party and let the ice elementals distract his adds while I focused all my dps on one of his victims.

Wasn't a very hard fight.

[WT_Neptune]

Originally posted by YariMurai:

Originally posted by deathsia:

oh no, they remove cheat code so now I have to actually the game

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

This is great - removing silly exploits makes combat encounters more meaningful. I'm actually impressed Larian was willing to do this, considering how much they love exploit based combat.

And Cazador IS A VAMPIRE. They have the ability to turn into mist and fly. Like, that's just 5e RAW/canon. It's what vampires do.

Great fix!!!

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by deathsia:

One of the more annoying end game boss fights just became even more annoying, it was already hard enough to get him into a position to knock him off to begin with but now, the entire act is pointless as he'll just turn into mist and float back onto solid ground if shoved off... I beat him the legit way mind you but only because i couldn't get him close to a ledge and shove him off.

Either use a Daylight spell, or use a weapon that gives off the effects of such, like the Blood of Lathander.

Not only does the magical sunlight inflict damage to him every turn, but it also prevents him from turning into mist as long as he's within its radius.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by topetepeterson:

How is this not a good thing?

Originally posted by Gorgeous Jones:

He's meant to be a Boss. It makes sense that they get Legendary Resistances to cheese methods outside of Skill Checks like in Dialogue Choices.

You two would not survive as GM's, if you think the players should be forced to handle difficult encounters the way the devs intended it.

[Demiurge]

I never shoved bosses or any others off ledges. Didn't even know that was a thing. Sounds lame tbh