CORELLON'S GRACE and unarmed strike

[Ghost from warp]

So, this quarter staff says
Natural Pugilist: You gain a +1 bonus to Unarmed Attack Rolls and damage.

But, if you equip weapon, you cant use unarmed attacks, except monks Ki actions.

Intended mechanic? If so, items sound as useless at best.

[Orion Invictus]

Monks can do an unarmed attack (no ki cost) as a bonus action after using their standard action to attack.

The staff is just there to get you started, since it deals more damage than your unarmed strike.

[Ghost from warp]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

since it deals more damage than your unarmed strike.

say it to tavern brawler and THE SPARKLE HANDS gloves

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

since it deals more damage than your unarmed strike.

say it to tavern brawler and THE SPARKLE HANDS gloves

Then don't equip the staff.

[Ghost from warp]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

say it to tavern brawler and THE SPARKLE HANDS gloves

Then don't equip the staff.

Which brings us to my initial point, what is the point of the staff that buffing but block you from using unarmed strike on main action?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Then don't equip the staff.

Which brings us to my initial point, what is the point of the staff that buffing but block you from using unarmed strike on main action?

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

The staff is just there to get you started, since it deals more damage than your unarmed strike.

[squat_instructor]

monks Ki actions ARE his primary way of dealing damage, you want extra damage to take advantage of multi-hit attacks and all of those are unarmed and consume Ki charges

[Mijj]

As everyone said and you don't seem to comprehend it, it is meant to be used for the monk class

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Then don't equip the staff.

Which brings us to my initial point, what is the point of the staff that buffing but block you from using unarmed strike on main action?

It's for monks who use unarmed strikes on their bonus actions?

I don't see what the problem is, it's a weapon that does more damage than being unarmed at least potentially AND it boosts the damage of your bonus action unarmed strikes which makes it even better for a monk.

[Ghost from warp]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Which brings us to my initial point, what is the point of the staff that buffing but block you from using unarmed strike on main action?

It's for monks who use unarmed strikes on their bonus actions?

I don't see what the problem is, it's a weapon that does more damage than being unarmed at least potentially AND it boosts the damage of your bonus action unarmed strikes which makes it even better for a monk.

Tavern Brawler and any gloves with unarmed attack bonus makes your point and this staff completely useless.

[squat_instructor]

and why can't you use all of the above at once?

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

It's for monks who use unarmed strikes on their bonus actions?

I don't see what the problem is, it's a weapon that does more damage than being unarmed at least potentially AND it boosts the damage of your bonus action unarmed strikes which makes it even better for a monk.

Tavern Brawler and any gloves with unarmed attack bonus makes your point and this staff completely useless.

Uh, okay.

It's not useful on a strength based monk with a particular feat.

Now imagine if other characters existed...


I think it's fair to say it's not a particularly amazing weapon, but calling it useless is like calling every melee weapon in the game useless because throwing weapons with tavern brawler and stacking damage equipment are so much more effective.

(For those who don't know, unless it was fixed throwing does weapon damage + 2x str bonus + 4d4 + falling damage which is kinda .. dumb)

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

It's for monks who use unarmed strikes on their bonus actions?

I don't see what the problem is, it's a weapon that does more damage than being unarmed at least potentially AND it boosts the damage of your bonus action unarmed strikes which makes it even better for a monk.

Tavern Brawler and any gloves with unarmed attack bonus makes your point and this staff completely useless.

And so when you get Tavern Brawler and gloves like that, you remove the staff. What's the problem?

[OnlyOffensive]

Originally posted by Ghost from warp:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

It's for monks who use unarmed strikes on their bonus actions?

I don't see what the problem is, it's a weapon that does more damage than being unarmed at least potentially AND it boosts the damage of your bonus action unarmed strikes which makes it even better for a monk.

Tavern Brawler and any gloves with unarmed attack bonus makes your point and this staff completely useless.

??? You can use staff and flurry of blows as well as additional unarmed attack. Staff just replaces basic attack. In fact, i personally think monk with weapon is ways better, since there doesnt seem to be any classic D&D monk feats, like adamantine fists etc. Basic weapon attack always better.

I used Karlach as barb/monk with homing trident, it was total nuts, imo you only need flurry of blows from monk.

[squat_instructor]

if you're running Tavern Brawler, flurry will benefit more from it compared to basic attack, since it's 2 unarmed hits that benefit from TB bonus, so you naturally want all unarmed bonuses you can get

Way of the Open Hand monk can get up to 4 bonus actions per turn with:
- Wholeness of Body
- 3 lvls into Rogue to get Thief
- Helmet of Grit

So you get 3-4 unarmed bonus attacks and the staff will give those bonus attacks nice little boost as well as +2 to your saving throws if you're not wearing armor

you also have access to Mind Sanctuary illithid power to use actions/bonus actions interchangeable so you can convert regular actions to bonus ones if needed