Please do something about ranger.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

Anything at this point. At least make favored enemy useful.

[BigJ]

It's way more useful than 5e and quite fun to play...what.

We also get favored terrain/playstyle instead of favored enemy in the game.

[guppy]

A free proficiency isn't usefull?
Also giving enemies disadvantage on ensnaring is pretty damn good for a controller build

[Powercrank]

isn't gloomstalker supposed to be game breakingly op

[Dank Sidious]

Gloomstarlker + Thief/Assassin is very good.

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

isn't gloomstalker supposed to be game breakingly op

Not even close. He has one extra attack at the start of combat, that's basically it.

[Snaef]

If that kills the enemy and drops combat, it's pretty valuable, if that's your thing of course.
You can stealth murder the whole map solo, I would imagine

[madjack]

Originally posted by Dank Sidious:

Gloomstarlker + Thief/Assassin is very good.

Gloomstalker/Assassin is the optimal way to multiclass Astarion.

And it's fun as all hell.

[victorvnv]

Gloomstalker/ assassin / fighter is the best sniper in the game, you can wreck your enemies turn one while having misty step for positioning and great stealth and can wear heavy armor .

I always make Astarion or Minsk into it and they are always my best killers.

Yea as a single class it’s not great but neither is rogue , in fact most classes are better off with some multi class utility.

Beast master is also great for act 1 leveling due to permanent pet to tank .

My first game I went ranger / rogue and had a blast . Maybe they should give them what they give fighters - an extra fear and a 3rd attack at 11 but even then I feel they will be better and more fun as gloomstalker/ assassin/ fighter multiclas

[Revan619]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

isn't gloomstalker supposed to be game breakingly op

nah gloom is pretty weak but everyone hypes it up

[guppy]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

great stealth and can wear heavy armor .

'Disadvantage on Stealth checks'
Besides there aren't really that many good heavy armors, most of the best are medium and the resulting AC usually beats the heavy.

But yes Gloomstalker / Assasin is a fantastic combo, even very early game - get hand crossbows, and pick sharp shooter at level 4 <3

If you start with gloomstalker you can even negate the -5 from sharp shooter entirely ( +2 archery figthing style, +3 from 'The Speedy Lightfeet' - dash and use 'mobile shot' )

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Originally posted by Powercrank:

isn't gloomstalker supposed to be game breakingly op

nah gloom is pretty weak but everyone hypes it up

Been able to 1 shot 4 enemies during act 3 during turn 1 disagrees.

[Revan619]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Originally posted by Revan619:

nah gloom is pretty weak but everyone hypes it up

Been able to 1 shot 4 enemies during act 3 during turn 1 disagrees.

So stronk. Much to behold.

Meanwhile casters be like https://youtu.be/891wAvVbnzo?si=oY5I0LreXoqprd0s

[Xanshi]

Originally posted by Baldurs_Gate_2:

Originally posted by Powercrank:

isn't gloomstalker supposed to be game breakingly op

Not even close. He has one extra attack at the start of combat, that's basically it.

In Dnd, having the ability to make second attack at level 3 is pretty strong. Hence fighters (action surge) and monk (flurry of blows) damage wise were strong at early levels.

But with some of the changes Larian made, yeah the extra attack can be found elsewhere. And it's the other gloomstalker ability that made them OP.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Originally posted by BigJ:

Been able to 1 shot 4 enemies during act 3 during turn 1 disagrees.

So stronk. Much to behold.

Meanwhile casters be like https://youtu.be/891wAvVbnzo?si=oY5I0LreXoqprd0s

With a crit setup like that, the gloomstalker just kills Raphael...doesn't even need crits if they didn't take a turn, which is easy to guarantee.

Hell that crit setup is better on anyone but the warlock.

Smite paladin/tempest cleric combo 1 shots Raphael right there.

So does any class if you have half-orc.

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by madjack:

Originally posted by Dank Sidious:

Gloomstarlker + Thief/Assassin is very good.

Gloomstalker/Assassin is the optimal way to multiclass Astarion.

And it's fun as all hell.

There's argument for both Assassin and Thief.

Assassin for "stealth kills" i.e first massive first turn damage, which allows you to end NPCs on turn 1 without them alerting others.

However thief has more sustainability after first turn with it giving you more off-hand attacks with hand xbow which all still benefit from Sharpshooter's + 10 damage.