PSA: if you miss a perception check you can manually bypass it!

[solaris32]

That is if it's for a chest. If you know where the chest is but your party fails the perception check, you can still manually dig it up by using the shovel. Awesome! I learned this when I couldn't get to the "hidden goblin stash" because I had already been there and failed the check. No more lost loot or save scumming!

[Rabbit]

oh that is really good to know, I've actually never gotten the treasure outside the last light because of that! I'm still near there on my current run, too. I'm coming for you, treasure.

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

oh that is really good to know, I've actually never gotten the treasure outside the last light because of that! I'm still near there on my current run, too. I'm coming for you, treasure.

Let me know how it goes! I've confirmed it works for other buried chest. Might take a couple tries to land on the right spot, especially if it's a chest you haven't seen before.

[Agony_Aunt]

Yeah, you can basically attempt to dig anywhere, so if there is something there, even if you don't know about it, it will still dig it up.

[solaris32]

More people need to see this! Some of those chest DCs are 20 and it's a pain to save scum getting them.

[Zolvolt]

I'm halfway through my third playthrough and did not know this.

[Quillithe]

It's kinda broken because missing a perception chest means you just try to dig around the spot until you find the chest.

I wish it didn't tell you of the failure

[Darkaiser]

I think there is an option to dig if you right-click on a shovel in inventory.

I found this out by accident and boy was I glad I did!

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Darkaiser:

I think there is an option to dig if you right-click on a shovel in inventory.

I found this out by accident and boy was I glad I did!

Yes, or more conveniently have it in your hotbar.

[Moffin Bovin]

its not perception. its survival.

its the one thing that survival is used for. making the skill almost completely worthless.

[a.out]

There is no need to save scum, especially not because of a chest. I don't understand the urge to literally get every item in the game and succeed on any dialog option. Sounds incredibly boring and repetitive. Game is easy enough already, even on tactician.

[solaris32]

Originally posted by a.out:

There is no need to save scum, especially not because of a chest. I don't understand the urge to literally get every item in the game and succeed on any dialog option. Sounds incredibly boring and repetitive. Game is easy enough already, even on tactician.

Certain chests have hand placed, not random loot, magic items that are very useful.

Regarding succeeding on dialogue checks it's because I'm playing a role, such as not killing innocents, and sometimes you must pass a check or else a fight is inevitable. Such as certain races when they meet the two tieflings holding Lae'zel (oops, not Karlach) your ONLY option for a peaceful resolution is to intimidate them. Failing it starts a fight and you have to kill them.

[Hypatia "Pip" Pitkin]

That's really good to know! Like Quillithe though, I wish they kept the perception check failures invisible.

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Hypatia "Pip" Pitkin:

That's really good to know! Like Quillithe though, I wish they kept the perception check failures invisible.

I don't, I like knowing they're there. I wouldn't be opposed to an option to turn the notification off for those who like to be kept in the dark.

[a.out]

Originally posted by solaris32:

Originally posted by a.out:

There is no need to save scum, especially not because of a chest. I don't understand the urge to literally get every item in the game and succeed on any dialog option. Sounds incredibly boring and repetitive. Game is easy enough already, even on tactician.

Certain chests have hand placed, not random loot, magic items that are very useful.

Regarding succeeding on dialogue checks it's because I'm playing a role, such as not killing innocents, and sometimes you must pass a check or else a fight is inevitable. Such as certain races when they meet the two tieflings holding Karlach your ONLY option for a peaceful resolution is to intimidate them. Failing it starts a fight and you have to kill them.

Yes. Very useful. Sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't. For me, personally, it just takes away a big chunk of the game if I play it deterministically, I.e. If I know exactly what I get at any point in the game. Why even play it? It's like watching a movie but with interruptions where you are required to do mouse clicks :D

[solaris32]

Originally posted by a.out:

Originally posted by solaris32:

Certain chests have hand placed, not random loot, magic items that are very useful.

Regarding succeeding on dialogue checks it's because I'm playing a role, such as not killing innocents, and sometimes you must pass a check or else a fight is inevitable. Such as certain races when they meet the two tieflings holding Karlach your ONLY option for a peaceful resolution is to intimidate them. Failing it starts a fight and you have to kill them.

Yes. Very useful. Sometimes you get them, sometimes you don't. For me, personally, it just takes away a big chunk of the game if I play it deterministically, I.e. If I know exactly what I get at any point in the game. Why even play it? It's like watching a movie but with interruptions where you are required to do mouse clicks :D

I don't know until I dig it up. Then I find a cool item for monk or warlock or something, but I'm not playing those and so in another playthrough I want them to enhance my fun. Like those gloves that give you a free jump after you dash, useful for rogues.

What you say would only be true if I was metagaming and actively looking up where the best items are before ever even getting to those places. Instead I want to discover as much as I can and use that knowledge I attained myself on future playthroughs. And I can't do that if I'm missing survival checks on chests.