What's up with the brothel

[Blackdragon]

Only 1 female ♥♥♥♥♥ available, can't actually ♥♥♥♥ her even for money, just "get touched while in total darkness" i.e. nothing. If I want more, she says, I should go to the male ♥♥♥♥♥. WTF? What kind of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brothel is that?

I heard it's possible to get foursome action with your romantic partner there - well, no dice: Shadowheart refused saying she wants me all for herself. Yeah funny thing, she hasn't put out yet, despite her bragging to me about how she trained with Sharrans to tie knots with her mouth.

It's like some bizarro world where ♥♥♥♥♥♥ take your money to preach at you about respecting their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ personal space, and your girlfriend talks about how she had sex with many other people while denying sex to you.

Also I'm pretty sure it's only so tough for hetero males. Gay stuff seems to be much more readily available.

So, question: WTF's up with that?

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Why are you two talking about her like she's an actual person, and not an NPC in the game?

Because they have issues Separating Fiction from Reality. Seems to be an issue with Twitter Crazies these days.

One way or the other, the NPC has boundaries. The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact that the game set boundaries for that particular NPC.

Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out.

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Because they have issues Separating Fiction from Reality. Seems to be an issue with Twitter Crazies these days.

One way or the other, the NPC has boundaries. The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact that the game set boundaries for that particular NPC.

Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out.

They dont have "Boundries", they are not real. Its Code that was put in, nothing more. Mods can also change this Code without their "Consent" or "Approval" because they ARE NOT REAL.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

One way or the other, the NPC has boundaries. The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact that the game set boundaries for that particular NPC.

Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out.

They dont have "Boundries", they are not real. Its Code that was put in, nothing more. Mods can also change this Code without their "Consent" or "Approval" because they ARE NOT REAL.

Exactly.

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much. Yes there are mods that can change those restrictions, but the base game itself has restrictions for that NPC. I mean, I never said that the NPC was real to begin with, but simply restricted by the game.

[Lminith]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much.

Tell that to the companions :P

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Lminith:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much.

Tell that to the companions :P

On my Drow, I pretty much kept the adamantine helmet on his head the whole game. But my Githyanki and Karlach have their faces exposed, and nobody seems to care.

[Greb]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

How the hell would a brothel even know how to present a Githyanki creche? Or for that matter, who besides a Githyanki (which are extremely xenophobic) would even be interested in using it?

The guy who sold his soul to the devil to make a trashy play called "A Pleasurable Deal" great great grandfather sold his soul to the devil to unlock forbidden knowledge on how to make the best ever brothel in the whole of the forgotten realms. That's how.

Don't ask why, simply ask, why not?

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

They dont have "Boundries", they are not real. Its Code that was put in, nothing more. Mods can also change this Code without their "Consent" or "Approval" because they ARE NOT REAL.

Exactly.

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much. Yes there are mods that can change those restrictions, but the base game itself has restrictions for that NPC. I mean, I never said that the NPC was real to begin with, but simply restricted by the game.

Your the one that said 'The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact', thus taking like they are "Real" and nothing can be done to change this. This is why I mentioned Mods.

You also said 'Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out'. Little hard to not take that sentence as you trying to say they are Real. Plus add in your Response was to mine claiming people where having issues Separating Fiction from Reality. So not sure how else to take that line.

[Scheneighnay]

The brothel has a glitch where if you swap party members while inside, your new party member will be a floor above you.

So Gale just materialized behind a locked door, where the resident attacked him and he had to blast down the door and run while the rest of the party was trying to get upstairs.

[Adorath]

There are 3 females, one is busy, one is assassinated, one is the drow. Then there's the drow's brother and Raphael. So your math is wrong.
Also, a brothel couldn't cater to all tastes if there were no males.
And aside from that, you're just wrong.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Exactly.

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much. Yes there are mods that can change those restrictions, but the base game itself has restrictions for that NPC. I mean, I never said that the NPC was real to begin with, but simply restricted by the game.

Your the one that said 'The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact', thus taking like they are "Real" and nothing can be done to change this. This is why I mentioned Mods.

You also said 'Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out'. Little hard to not take that sentence as you trying to say they are Real. Plus add in your Response was to mine claiming people where having issues Separating Fiction from Reality. So not sure how else to take that line.

While that is fair enough at face value, I certainly didn't intend for it to be taken is a NPC being real (I mean come on, really?).

A restriction was put on the NPC in the base game, that just so happens to be a boundary in real life; it's no more than a simple matter of similarity that I pointed out. I was simply saying that this is how the base game is setup. The player doesn't have to like the restriction, but that is the restriction -> in the base game.

Now whether a player chooses to use a optional mod is a different story and completely up to them.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by Lminith:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Coded to have restrictions, since boundaries seems to be a bit much.

Tell that to the companions :P

True, but that is how player-sexual romances work in games.

[countgrey]

How have we had over 100 comments and yet nobody pointed out that OP c*ckbl*cked himself? I'll put spoilers around the more important bits.

Seriously, Shadowheart will sleep with you, and even have a foursome (or even an orgy) in the brothel. She's even cool with you sleeping with Halsin, and if you sleep with Mizora (a literal fiend) she just goes "now you know I'm the better lay" and continues the relationship with you. As long as you've done her earlier romance scenes and progressed past the Temple of Shar in her quest line, as well as keep a high favorability with her (you can literally spam "pet Scratch" to grind those points up if needed), she'll sleep with you.

All you have to do is talk to Shadowheart and rest in your camp more often and she'll eventually go "hey, wanna smash?" After that, she's totally cool with a foursome in the brothel. To have the orgy though, you need to do the following: after you sleep with her, chat with Halsin about his past lovers, and he'll be like "I want you, but you're with her, so... does she get jealous?" Then talk to Shadowheart and she'll say she's cool with it, so then you can go back to Halsin and bang. After you've done that have both of them in your party when you go to the brothel and then all of you will bang... in darkness lol.

tl;dr: take more long rests and you'll get laid. Shadowheart only wants your first time together to be one-on-one, after that she's cool with pretty much everything.

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Your the one that said 'The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact', thus taking like they are "Real" and nothing can be done to change this. This is why I mentioned Mods.

You also said 'Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out'. Little hard to not take that sentence as you trying to say they are Real. Plus add in your Response was to mine claiming people where having issues Separating Fiction from Reality. So not sure how else to take that line.

While that is fair enough at face value, I certainly didn't intend for it to be taken is a NPC being real (I mean come on, really?).

A restriction was put on the NPC in the base game, that just so happens to be a boundary in real life; it's no more than a simple matter of similarity that I pointed out. I was simply saying that this is how the base game is setup. The player doesn't have to like the restriction, but that is the restriction -> in the base game.

Now whether a player chooses to use a optional mod is a different story and completely up to them.

You keep trying to act like me questioning your perception of Fantasy Vs Reality is what is weird, but you keep saying things like 'A restriction was put on the NPC in the base game, that just so happens to be a boundary in real life; it's no more than a simple matter of similarity that I pointed out'. The issue is that you keep using Real Life as a way to explain NPCs, thats why I keep questioning it.

Your trying to say that Code in a Game is the same thing as a Persons Boundaries in Real Life, and its not. One is just Program that can be Altered by Code, the other is an individuals Will. Trying to say they are anything alike is why I say you have an issue Separating Fiction from Reality.

I understand, at the Core at lest, what you are trying to get at, I just dont agree with how your presenting it. Yes the Character has been programmed to limited responses based on what the Developer decided they could at the time, but trying to claim that its some kind of "Boundaries" that the Character themselves would not do because THEY decided it, is just going a bit to far.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

One way or the other, the NPC has boundaries. The player can like it or the player can dislike it, but it won't change the fact that the game set boundaries for that particular NPC.

Reality was brought into the game, not the other way around. I simply pointed it out.

They dont have "Boundries", they are not real. Its Code that was put in, nothing more. Mods can also change this Code without their "Consent" or "Approval" because they ARE NOT REAL.

In real life sure, but in the actual story of the game that you are supposed to be immersing yourself in the character does have boundaries. Its boundaries created by the writers sure, but boundaries none the less that are meant to inform us of her character more and have us roleplay off of.

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by NixAhmose:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

They dont have "Boundries", they are not real. Its Code that was put in, nothing more. Mods can also change this Code without their "Consent" or "Approval" because they ARE NOT REAL.

In real life sure, but in the actual story of the game that you are supposed to be immersing yourself in the character does have boundaries. Its boundaries created by the writers sure, but boundaries none the less that are meant to inform us of her character more and have us roleplay off of.

This was not a discussion about the World and Characters set in the Story, this was about the Game and its Mechanics. When you use words like NPC you are not talking about said Character, or you would use their Name.

Its important to Word things properly, or we have issues like this. Also we dont have enough Background info on these Characters to say this is how they would, or would not respond. All you have to go on is a very limited amount of Dialog and interactions. Who knows how much is what is intended to be their actual Personality, or what was limited by Time and Money.