Mol -- Spoilers I suppose

[nobody]

So...I'm in the Tiefling camp exploring around and I come across this child called Mol, who is giving me orders like she (a girl, I think) is a mafia boss. Well, I do play these games with an RP perspective, and while I don't see my character as deeply evil, he is after all a half-orc fighter, so I don't think there's any chance he's taking orders from a child. She sics the adults on me--says I'm hurting her. This seems like poor character writing to me, since if she really is a kid gang leader I wouldn't expect her to run to the adults. Also, how stupid are the adults to believe her--they know she's a street urchin, right? Also also, the adults can't possibly believe they can defeat my party by force. And they need me against the goblins. And they need me against the druids. And while my character isn't actively good, he's probably inclined to their side in both disputes. So, the dialog option is for me to lie--say I never talked to the kid. Why? I would much rather say Intimidation: "Oh, you mean the child gang leader? Well, I don't take orders from street rats, so I told her to buzz off. Just like I'm telling you." But there's no such option. And the other option is to surrender, which is at the very top of the list of things that is never going to happen. So they attack me and I wind up having to kill the whole lot of them. I do like this game, but this part seems badly designed.

[frakthefriendly]

I just see the adults as part of a bribe type situation. As for everything else, I 100% agree.

Also, you can't kill the kids, which is 100% b.s.

[Kryldost]

Mol is the secret boss of bg3, beware of the mighty Mol xD

[nobody]

Orly? She's a boss? That should be interesting. Actually, what I like even less now I think about it, the option besides "surrender" is "attack." Again, I try to see these things RPishly, and I would never attack in that circumstance. If they attack me, that's different. But there's no such option. It's surrender or attack.

[GrandMajora]

When I was playing in Explorer mode and stole the Idol of Sylvanus, the Tieflings wiped out the Druids all by themselves. I only had to fight a couple of druids that stayed behind the guard the idol's resting place, but by the time I managed to finish them off and finished looting the corpses, all the other druids including Kagha had been killed by the hellspawns.

Speaking of Mol, I found a contract with her name on it stashed in a secret room of the House of Hope, which means that she has brokered some kind of deal with an actual devil.

[LinkToReality.ttv]

I can't remember a single time Mol gave me an order... I have the option to ask if she needs help at which point she asks that your steal the idol. but other than that you can ask her for your stuff back if you got stolen from. Or invest into her future thives' guild. Or you can just say you don't care that they're stealing and leave it at that... why would you attack her?

[nobody]

If you find her in her cave hideout she says "leave now" or something like that. I probably wasn't planning to stay anyway, but she counts to ten and says something about consequences. I never attacked her. She sicced her town on me.

[LinkToReality.ttv]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Speaking of Mol, I found a contract with her name on it stashed in a secret room of the House of Hope, which means that she has brokered some kind of deal with an actual devil.

You can find her playing chess with Raphael at Lost Light Inn before the kidnap attempt and her being abducted. After you help her she runs off and Raphael insinuates that he want to make a deal with her (if you have Astarion with you it will also trigger an event with him at this point). You can then talk to your companions about that and decide that you should talk to Mol about it.

Sadly I forgot about that and never confronted her and in Baldur's Gate there's no option to bring it up. So I have no idea if you can intervene.

[LinkToReality.ttv]

Originally posted by nobody:

If you find her in her cave hideout she says "leave now" or something like that. I probably wasn't planning to stay anyway, but she counts to ten and says something about consequences. I never attacked her. She sicced her town on me.

Ahh... I guess I've never gone in there without helping at least one of the kids beforehand at which point she's more welcoming.

[Powercrank]

if you found out a random half orc stranger was skulking around your kids favorite playing spot, and then your child accused them of doing some creepo stuff, you would let said stranger hang around because they're good at fighting goblins?

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

if you found out a random half orc stranger was skulking around your kids favorite playing spot, and then your child accused them of doing some creepo stuff, you would let said stranger hang around because they're good at fighting goblins?

They're enablers. One of the kids also gets caught red handed stealing from one of the mercenaries, and the guard decides to take the kid's side and punch out the mercenary who was reclaiming his property.

All he did was give the kid a slap, and the tiefling decided that knocking out the man who was robbed was an appropriate response.

It's because of stupid crap like that, that I find myself sympathizing with Kagha. I can understand the tieflings neglecting to discipline the children, given the circumstances. But to actively protect them while they are caught doing crimes around the grove is not acceptable.

[nobody]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

if you found out a random half orc stranger was skulking around your kids favorite playing spot, and then your child accused them of doing some creepo stuff, you would let said stranger hang around because they're good at fighting goblins?

Being realistic, if I knew the kid in question was a street urchin, and the half-orc in question just saved my village, and I still needed the half orc for the coming fight (two coming fights), and I couldn't arrest him anyway if it came to it--I'd probably at least listen to what he had to say. Granted, the option to tell the truth isn't given, which is part of my problem with the scenario. And then the narrator says "your lies are transparent" or something...which honestly...I'm getting more annoyed by this scenario the more I think about it.