Barbarians don't have Subclasses anymore?

[Dave]

Were they all just incorporated into the class itself?

[[iW] Brownie]

choose subclass at lv 3

[Dave]

Hmmmmm. I wonder why they did it that way.

[solaris32]

Originally posted by Dave:

Hmmmmm. I wonder why they did it that way.

Because otherwise multiclassing would be stupidly overpowered.

[Vayt]

most classes in dnd 5e get there sub class at lvl 3, this is normal for barbarians.

[ExcretusMaximus]

Originally posted by Dave:

Hmmmmm. I wonder why they did it that way.

Because the game is using D&D 5E rules and that's how it is in the game.

[Dave]

I never played any version of D&D. Once again I have to wonder why some classes would be given subclasses immediately while other would have to way. I just don't understand the reasoning behind such a rule.

[T. Panda]

Originally posted by Dave:

I never played any version of D&D. Once again I have to wonder why some classes would be given subclasses immediately while other would have to way. I just don't understand the reasoning behind such a rule.

For some classes, such as clerics or sorcs, their subclass represents something deeply ingrained with their character and choose at level 1, for other classes like rogues, their subclass is more of a specialisation or something for them to work towards and choose at 3, finally we have classes like Wizards which choose their subclass at 2.

Of course, choosing a subclass is a bit of a power boost, not to mention it's a fun milestone- But each class has multiple key levels where they receive large boosts of power, not just sub classes, at levels 3, 5, and at varying levels beyond that based on their class. This power curve varies significantly from class to class and situation to situation.

[Khryst]

Originally posted by Panda:

Originally posted by Dave:

I never played any version of D&D. Once again I have to wonder why some classes would be given subclasses immediately while other would have to way. I just don't understand the reasoning behind such a rule.

For some classes, such as clerics or sorcs, their subclass represents something deeply ingrained with their character and choose at level 1, for other classes like rogues, their subclass is more of a specialisation or something for them to work towards and choose at 3, finally we have classes like Wizards which choose their subclass at 2.

Of course, choosing a subclass is a bit of a power boost, not to mention it's a fun milestone- But each class has multiple key levels where they receive large boosts of power, not just sub classes, at levels 3, 5, and at varying levels beyond that based on their class. This power curve varies significantly from class to class and situation to situation.

Even beyond that Larian made changes to make classes "better" to suit the game rather then how they work in actual DnD.

Paladins for example in BG3 choose their oath at creation, but in the PnP they don't choose till lvl 3.

[pRaX]

Originally posted by solaris32:

Originally posted by Dave:

Hmmmmm. I wonder why they did it that way.

Because otherwise multiclassing would be stupidly overpowered.

It still is stupidly overpowered.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Panda:

Originally posted by Dave:

I never played any version of D&D. Once again I have to wonder why some classes would be given subclasses immediately while other would have to way. I just don't understand the reasoning behind such a rule.

For some classes, such as clerics or sorcs, their subclass represents something deeply ingrained with their character and choose at level 1, for other classes like rogues, their subclass is more of a specialisation or something for them to work towards and choose at 3, finally we have classes like Wizards which choose their subclass at 2.

Of course, choosing a subclass is a bit of a power boost, not to mention it's a fun milestone- But each class has multiple key levels where they receive large boosts of power, not just sub classes, at levels 3, 5, and at varying levels beyond that based on their class. This power curve varies significantly from class to class and situation to situation.

Shouldn't Monk be the same.

[Dave]

Well, all right then.