Getting Real Hard To Resist Dark Urge

[GrandMajora]

https://youtu.be/ux_Rp0zNxjo

2:37 - "I would kill everyone at the first opportunity, so that I don't have to deal with them." - MOOD!

When it comes to RPG's that give players the freedom to do so, I always, always go for the evil route on my first play through. However, prior to this character reveal, I had decided I wanted to play Astarion as my first character. Not because I'm overly fond of him as a character, but specifically because of the fact he was a vampire (spawn), and I want to see how that story plays out.

The reason why I wanted him to be the MC, is because I don't want to have to jump through a bunch of metaphorical hoops trying to convince him to open up to me, and felt like playing from his perspective would make things easier.

But this news about The Dark Urge is making me sorely tempted to change my plans for a first play through. I've always wanted to play a vampire in D&D, for literal decades now, and I at long last finally have that opportunity in front of me. But now there are two options in the game which offer me a chance to slake my 'blood lust' and I don't know who to go with!

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I think ( and this is just me guessing ) it means if you totally pursue the Dark Urge evil side, you will be cut out of some scenes you would not normally miss on a first play run. No matter what other Origin or Custom char you run with.

Such is the price we pay for greatness!

[Kn8cK]

Originally posted by VastGirth:

I want to play a custom, but i also want the extra story elements from Dark Urge. I will play a Paladin who resists the Urge as much as possible.

Probably. Or i might just got go the Barbaian lady.

I will try to do the same, however, I will roleplay him in such a way that whenever he sees a ****** / NPC with certain visual characteristics, he will succumb to his urge and murder them on sight, be they main party member, random NPC or quest giver, it doesn't matter. I will call him N*****SLAYER!


Because F the Necromancers. They're evil

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I am guessing he thinks the majority of players are going to want to do a totally bloody evil run with a Dark Urge. And he may be right in that thinking.

Also, yes, that is my goal. If I'm doing a Dark Urge playthrough, I'm going to go full blown evil all the way with it. Why would I choose that kind of character and not do so?

I have little to no interest in playing out some kind of redemption story, where my character rejects power in the name of friendship or some ♥♥♥♥. If I want a custom character who's not a blood soaked maniac, I'll make a Tav.

I'm making The Dark Urge, because I want to indulge in said urge, not resist it!

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Yes, I agree. But that may not be the case if you resist the Dark Urge and become a good char.

Who says you can fully resist the Dark Urge? From what I heard you have to release it sometimes to prevent buildup and taking your control away.

Well, I will find out. lol. But that does not make sense if it is true. And who did you hear that from? Was it a player's opinion or from a official resource like Swen or a developer?

[Sister of Silence]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

Who says you can fully resist the Dark Urge? From what I heard you have to release it sometimes to prevent buildup and taking your control away.

Well, I will find out. lol. But that does not make sense if it is true. And who did you hear that from? Was it a player's opinion or from a official resource like Swen or a developer?

I've only watched the last panel from hell so it must be from there.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Well, I will find out. lol. But that does not make sense if it is true. And who did you hear that from? Was it a player's opinion or from a official resource like Swen or a developer?

I could have sworn it was in the Panel From Hell, where they mentioned that the more you resist the dark urge, the stronger it will become, until you're eventually forced to let it out at some point.

In other words, you can't deny your urge forever, and judging by the video I linked up above, it seems there are great rewards for giving into it more freely.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I am guessing he thinks the majority of players are going to want to do a totally bloody evil run with a Dark Urge. And he may be right in that thinking.

Also, yes, that is my goal. If I'm doing a Dark Urge playthrough, I'm going to go full blown evil all the way with it. Why would I choose that kind of character and not do so?

I have little to no interest in playing out some kind of redemption story, where my character rejects power in the name of friendship or some ♥♥♥♥. If I want a custom character who's not a blood soaked maniac, I'll make a Tav.

I'm making The Dark Urge, because I want to indulge in said urge, not resist it!

I can understand your position. Which is why I think most players will play it that way. But for the same reasons you would want to go the full out bloody evil path, is why some want the challenge of redemption of a evil urge. There is no challenge in playing a good char with a custom char.

[dolby]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

of he's a vampire

vampire should be a race... would take that over this urge any day of the week..

most likely i'll never get to touch any of the origins at all.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Sister of Silence:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Well, I will find out. lol. But that does not make sense if it is true. And who did you hear that from? Was it a player's opinion or from a official resource like Swen or a developer?

I've only watched the last panel from hell so it must be from there.

I will watch that part again. I do not remember getting that impression, But you may be right. If that is correct, then when I find out that is true, I will stop, delete the char and play a custom Tav. :P

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Well, I will find out. lol. But that does not make sense if it is true. And who did you hear that from? Was it a player's opinion or from a official resource like Swen or a developer?

I could have sworn it was in the Panel From Hell, where they mentioned that the more you resist the dark urge, the stronger it will become, until you're eventually forced to let it out at some point.

In other words, you can't deny your urge forever, and judging by the video I linked up above, it seems there are great rewards for giving into it more freely.

Ohh, I think you are right on about the powerful rewards for giving in to the evil urges. I fully expect that happening. But if there is no reward for turning to the good side, only a good feeling for the player, that would seem to encourage players to only play the dark side of a Dark Urge char. Imo, that would be a bad design in the game.

[AsianGirlLover]

Apparently Swen recommends playing a Tav for your first playthrough to get the full, base experience of the game…

But screw that, we’re going murderhobo urge!

[DragonMaster]

I will have to agree with the OP it is getting hard to resist playing the Dark Urge as a paladin the first one through. Everything that I see<read> about it makes it even more tempting. LOL

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓎𝑒𝓇:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

https://youtu.be/ux_Rp0zNxjo

2:37 - "I would kill everyone at the first opportunity, so that I don't have to deal with them." - MOOD!

When it comes to RPG's that give players the freedom to do so, I always, always go for the evil route on my first play through. ...

Originally posted by wtiger27:

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I am guessing he thinks the majority of players are going to want to do a totally bloody evil run with a Dark Urge. And he may be right in that thinking.

Why do you think that all these actions that Sven Vincke did during the show and that are shown in the videos are the "evil route"?

Duh. You are agreeing with my statement? Sure, the rewards for doing so may be the most powerful.

And on the subject earlier," is it possible to fully resist the Dark Urge? ", I carefully watched that part of the PFH presentation about the Dark Urge and never once got the impression that trying to do so would mean the Evil side of the Dark Urge will take full control.

In fact, they even said, the player can resist those urges, without suggesting it was impossible to always do it when given a choice. If I missed a point, please provide a link where I did in the PFH. presentation.

This is one YouTube video I watched and he does not suggest you can not fully resist the evil urge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YotVIZHvE2E

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by dolby:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

of he's a vampire

vampire should be a race... would take that over this urge any day of the week..

most likely i'll never get to touch any of the origins at all.

No, vampires are not a race, they are a template. Just like Half Dragon, or Half Fiend, est.

Any humanoid creature can become a vampire spawn if they are drained by a true vampire, then become a true vampire if they drink their creator's blood.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Ohh, I think you are right on about the powerful rewards for giving in to the evil urges. I fully expect that happening. But if there is no reward for turning to the good side, only a good feeling for the player, that would seem to encourage players to only play the dark side of a Dark Urge char. Imo, that would be a bad design in the game.

Even though the evidence is overwhelmingly leaning towards us having some relation to Bhaal, I still have my reserved skepticism about Dark Urge being a Bhaalspawn, or even being Bhaal himself.

First of all, the Bhaalspawn are all canonically dead at this point in the timeline. Bhaal was resurrected, so he no longer has any need for them.

Second of all, Bhaal relinquished his divinity specifically because Ao has forbidden the gods to directly interfere in the world of mortals. It would be very strange for Bhaal to renounce his divinity so that he could continue his murder hobo lifestyle, only for him to reclaim that divinity over the course of The Dark Urge's personal story.