Barbarian + Any Race That's Not Dwarf

[CountCapacollo]

Talk about killing the fantasy here. You're going to have me believe a buck fifty guy is swinging around a two handed weapon with terrifying might?

Nah, he's too busy trying to keep himself from blowing away in the wind.

[uni790]

Play a Gnome Barb then :P

[Runic Tunic]

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 88-130 lbs and CAN/WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle weighs more than fat, for example.

Plus, this is Fantasy don't overthink it.

[CountCapacollo]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 88-130 lbs and CAN/WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle weighs more than fat, for example.

Plus, this is Fantasy don't overthink it.

I'm sure they don't have weight classes in sports for nothing, right?

It's bad.

Also chimpanzee doesn't win against a 250 full muscled man, any day of the week.

Maybe if you put the chimp against dad bod, sure.

[uni790]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 130 lbs and can and WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight and muscle weights more than fat.

Plus, this is Fantasy don't overthink it.

I don't think a Chimp could do that, it's could hurt/kill you sure, but not rip limbs off, now some of the heavier cousins, like the Baboon, or Gorilla sure, but a chimp? I doubt it, maybe a younger child's.

[Actalo]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 130 lbs and can and WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle also weight more than fat.

Depends on the size/athleticism of the chimp and the size/athleticism of the man.

Muscle is muscle, bone is bone, and blood is blood - it all functions the same no matter what species it comes from. A 100lbs male chimp can't overpower nor dismember a 200lbs man.

[Recjawjind]

Me bout to make the twinkiest elf femboy barb

[solaris32]

Then don't make that character if you don't like it. Though I do agree NPCs should still follow the traditional rules, and as far as I've heard they are.

[Stromko]

Originally posted by Groovy:

I'm sure they don't have weight classes in sports for nothing, right?

It's bad.

Also chimpanzee doesn't win against a 250 full muscled man, any day of the week.

Maybe if you put the chimp against dad bod, sure.

Um, you could put the MMA champion of the world against an adult male chimpanzee and he is 50/50 going to die or at least lose his face and eyeballs. It's not going to give a damn about jointlocks or footwork or whatever, it will unpeel him like an orange. The quality of chimpanzee muscle is completely beyond human capability.

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 130 lbs and can and WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight and muscle weights more than fat.

Plus, this is Fantasy don't overthink it.

I don't think a Chimp could do that, it's could hurt/kill you sure, but not rip limbs off, now some of the heavier cousins, like the Baboon, or Gorilla sure, but a chimp? I doubt it, maybe a younger child's.

Originally posted by Actalo:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 130 lbs and can and WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle also weight more than fat.

Depends on the size/athleticism of the chimp and the size/athleticism of the man.

Muscle is muscle, bone is bone, and blood is blood - it all functions the same no matter what species it comes from. A 100lbs male chimp can't overpower nor dismember a 200lbs man.

Since you're all saying the same thing here I'll just lump you all together lol

First side note: Baboons are actually smaller than Chimps (44-66 lbs) and don't seem to be as strong as humans. So if you think a baboon would win against a human, then a chimp def could. Larger apes, like gorillas, absolutely, so no arguments there.

2nd. I think you're all greatly underestimating a chimpanzees' strength. It definitely can vary, no doubt, but the average chimp is estimated to be about 2x-2.5x stronger than the average human. It's not just muscle and bone and all things are just equal. Anatomy differs.

Humans have better fine motor control, allowing us to finely tune which muscles and how many activate to do a certain task. Chimps and other apes' fine motor control are far less precise, so when they do something, it's ALL of their muscle fibers firing at once. I may have been exaggerating about removing limbs, but they absolutely could win against a human.

And again, you're all missing the point: Fantasy lol

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Groovy:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 88-130 lbs and CAN/WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle weighs more than fat, for example.

Plus, this is Fantasy don't overthink it.

I'm sure they don't have weight classes in sports for nothing, right?

It's bad.

Also chimpanzee doesn't win against a 250 full muscled man, any day of the week.

Maybe if you put the chimp against dad bod, sure.

Also, I want to address yours specifically: You're still comparing humans vs humans in your weight class example. If we actually put a chimp in a weight class against a human, it would still be able to fight above it's weight class: their 2x-2.5x stronger than the average human. Now imagine putting it through the same training regimen as a fighter. It likely could take on even larger, stronger humans.

No offense, but we're shooting fireballs out of our hands, raising the dead, talking to animals and gods, and turning invisible. I think the weight thing is a pretty minor offense when it comes to unrealistic things in the game. Just my opinion.

[Edstyles]

Watching people think they know about animals is cute :D

Anyways no idea what this thread is about but there are beefy options for your barbarian to look more bulky. If its about the racial stat changes they are just a good thing in general.

[Klutch]

Originally posted by Actalo:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Average weight of a Chimpanzee is about 130 lbs and can and WILL overpower a full grown man and rip of their face/limbs no problem. How strong something is comes down to more than weight. Muscle also weight more than fat.

Depends on the size/athleticism of the chimp and the size/athleticism of the man.

Muscle is muscle, bone is bone, and blood is blood - it all functions the same no matter what species it comes from. A 100lbs male chimp can't overpower nor dismember a 200lbs man.

In the Gombe war, we can see that size has nothing to do with the ferociousness of a chimp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War#:~:text=The%20Gombe%20Chimpanzee%20War%2C%20also,unified%20in%20the%20Kasakela%20community.