Huh are other major companies jelous of larian studios?

[Deviant]

I just saw some youtube video where other companies like blizzard,obsidian attack bladurs gate 3 scope basically they are jelous that larian studio made a real masterpiece becuz they were passionate about the game and poured their heart in it and other companies got jelous becuz of that and they started attack larian studio? instead of taking example how to properly make a game? what a world we live in

[solaris32]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by solaris32:

Yes, although I wouldn't call it an attack, more an excuse to be lazy mixed with jealousy.

Where's the "lazy and jealous" part? Also you're referring to a man who put an entirely functional Lansquenet card game in Pentiment so it could appear a total of one time per playthrough as lazy.

If he's saying BG3 was made under atypical conditions then that means he doesn't want the conditions to become typical, and the only reason for that is to be lazy.

[Bastila Shan]

Well theres no doubt bg3 will be goty with all these other jealous devs hating on it because its just too good for them

[NeeLot]

Originally posted by solaris32:

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Where's the "lazy and jealous" part? Also you're referring to a man who put an entirely functional Lansquenet card game in Pentiment so it could appear a total of one time per playthrough as lazy.

If he's saying BG3 was made under atypical conditions then that means he doesn't want the conditions to become typical, and the only reason for that is to be lazy.

Your imagination is working really hard right now. Too bad you decided against checking the full quote:

"Great thread. The conditions under which BG3 was made are atypical. This is in no way a slight against the game or the people working on it, who are clearly passionate and talented.

Having the foundation set and the funding to build things on your own terms is invaluable."

Do you see him not wanting those conditions to be a thing or perhaps saying the opposite thing?

[solaris32]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by solaris32:

If he's saying BG3 was made under atypical conditions then that means he doesn't want the conditions to become typical, and the only reason for that is to be lazy.

Your imagination is working really hard right now. Too bad you decided against checking the full quote:

"Great thread. The conditions under which BG3 was made are atypical. This is in no way a slight against the game or the people working on it, who are clearly passionate and talented.

Having the foundation set and the funding to build things on your own terms is invaluable."

Do you see him not wanting those conditions to be a thing or perhaps saying the opposite thing?

Then what conditions does he think are not typical? Because a lot of things are atypical in a game's development cycle. People leaving, or joining, or there's a fire, or loss of data, or they need more funding. He's basically saying nothing of value.

The only think that was atypical about BG3 in the AAA dev world is the passion of the developers and the time they were allowed to make it (it's typical for devs under a publisher to be given a deadline).

[ihatevnecks]

Originally posted by solaris32:

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Your imagination is working really hard right now. Too bad you decided against checking the full quote:

"Great thread. The conditions under which BG3 was made are atypical. This is in no way a slight against the game or the people working on it, who are clearly passionate and talented.

Having the foundation set and the funding to build things on your own terms is invaluable."

Do you see him not wanting those conditions to be a thing or perhaps saying the opposite thing?

Then what conditions does he think are not typical? Because a lot of things are atypical in a game's development cycle. People leaving, or joining, or there's a fire, or loss of data, or they need more funding. He's basically saying nothing of value.

The only think that was atypical about BG3 in the AAA dev world is the passion of the developers and the time they were allowed to make it (it's typical for devs under a publisher to be given a deadline).

He's said a lot more of value than you, so you really have no space to judge here. It's almost like the guy who's been with Obsidian since 2005, the majority of which they were an indie studio, knows a hell of a lot more about game development than you.

[NeeLot]

Originally posted by solaris32:

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Your imagination is working really hard right now. Too bad you decided against checking the full quote:

"Great thread. The conditions under which BG3 was made are atypical. This is in no way a slight against the game or the people working on it, who are clearly passionate and talented.

Having the foundation set and the funding to build things on your own terms is invaluable."

Do you see him not wanting those conditions to be a thing or perhaps saying the opposite thing?

Then what conditions does he think are not typical? Because a lot of things are atypical in a game's development cycle. People leaving, or joining, or there's a fire, or loss of data, or they need more funding. He's basically saying nothing of value.

The only think that was atypical about BG3 in the AAA dev world is the passion of the developers and the time they were allowed to make it (it's typical for devs under a publisher to be given a deadline).

I'm not Josh Sawyer. Go ask him yourself if you want more details. I see that you're actively looking for a malice in a short Twitter post that is almost entirely positive about BG3 and I have no idea why.

[LeftPaw]

I would imagine other company's or publishers want them to fail. They don't want encourage to independents, There's no money in that.

[ihatevnecks]

Other "companies" haven't attacked Larian Studios. Individual people from other companies have posted opinions about the game, most of which weren't even attacks. Those opinions aren't whole companies, they're individual people.

[Chiryuu]

Originally posted by The Sarah:

Larian also didn't abuse its female workers or enforce overwhelming "crunch" practices.

Basically, Larian is proof you can get a bunch of people together who like games and stories, have them work reasonable hours, treat them well, and end up with a massive success.

Oh, also no predatory monetisation practices, so you KNOW the AAA companies are fuming about that too lol.

I really doubt that.

[solaris32]

Originally posted by NeeLot:

Originally posted by solaris32:

Then what conditions does he think are not typical? Because a lot of things are atypical in a game's development cycle. People leaving, or joining, or there's a fire, or loss of data, or they need more funding. He's basically saying nothing of value.

The only think that was atypical about BG3 in the AAA dev world is the passion of the developers and the time they were allowed to make it (it's typical for devs under a publisher to be given a deadline).

I'm not Josh Sawyer. Go ask him yourself if you want more details. I see that you're actively looking for a malice in a short Twitter post that is almost entirely positive about BG3 and I have no idea why.

Originally posted by LeftPaw:

I would imagine other company's or publishers want them to fail. They don't want encourage to independents, There's no money in that.

That's why. People like him should be ecstatic for the success of BG3, not saying it's atypical. He should be pushing for publishers to give more time to passionate devs, but he wants to keep an out.

[ziyal-]

Originally posted by Neas:

they are just saying they won't make a game like bg3 because they don't have the resources.
this is because as a public traded company they don't get the time to make a game like bg3.

No one demands from small indie companies, that they are using cinematic cutscenes and stuff, but everyone should be able to give us an engaging and meaningful story, that should not be an anomaly. I had to make more impactful decisions in BG 3 EA, than in a lot of finished games.

[cire87]

Originally posted by ihatevnecks:

Other "companies" haven't attacked Larian Studios. Individual people from other companies have posted opinions about the game, most of which weren't even attacks. Those opinions aren't whole companies, they're individual people.

this is basically what i said earlier but people dont seem to care

[ihatevnecks]

Originally posted by cire87:

Originally posted by ihatevnecks:

Other "companies" haven't attacked Larian Studios. Individual people from other companies have posted opinions about the game, most of which weren't even attacks. Those opinions aren't whole companies, they're individual people.

this is basically what i said earlier but people dont seem to care

Ironically for folks praising CDPR for Witcher 3 in this thread, their own devs have addressed this exact situation regarding scope creep and inflating game sizes and budgets... and they pretty much agree with a lot of the commentary that posters here are calling "attacks."

But obviously Steam users who have never shipped a single game would know FAR more than people who actually work in the industry.

https://www.thegamer.com/cd-projekt-quest-designer-rpg-development-hitting-wall/

[Rusted Metal]

Larian are the best in the business when it comes to RPG's imo DOS2 even though it falls in the last acts is the best the CRPG has to offer they innovated they didn't rely on nostalgia to sell their game like everyone else.

But all this hype and "best game ever created" and i saw a video titled why you should preorder... it's all extremely preemptive even for a massive fangirl like me, since no one outside of the developers have seen the full game yet.

[cire87]

everyone seems to only mention DOS1&2 but they forget larian has made other games and they are not horrible